A Story of the Scourge of Public Welfare!

by **semperfiguy** » October 3, 2011, 9:44 am

I received this by email this morning and thought that the forumites might enjoy the read. I found it to be very profound!

Written by a British Citizen after the London Riots....

The Bird Feeder

I bought a bird feeder.. I hung it on my patio and filled it lovingly with seed... It was indeed a beautiful bird feeder. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of theContinuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue..

Then came the bird sh * t. It was everywhere; on the patio tiles, the chairs, the table ...everywhere!

Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.

And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.

Soon, the back yard was like it used to be ... quiet, serene and no one demanding theirrights to a free meal...

Now let's see ....... our government give outfree food, subsidised housing, free medical care, and free education and allows anyoneborn here to be an automatic citizen.

Then the illegals came by the millions. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for the free services; small flats are housing 5 or more families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seenby a doctor in an emergency surgery because it is filled with illegal non tax payers; your child's year 12 class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speakEnglish.
Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than 'The Union Jack' are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Its just my opinion but:

maybe, just maybe, it's time for the government
to take down the damn bird feeder.

If you agree, pass it on; if not, continue cleaning up the sh*t!

by **Sateev** » October 3, 2011, 11:46 am

Anyone who believes this has any relevance is a sap.

I refer you to UdonExpat's post on this thread: topic20653.html

Also, see tax paid by General Electric. Oops, you can't because they didn't pay any.

To paraphrase one great American, no one in America got rich alone. They used, and abused, a system paid for by working Americans, who pay an inordinate share of taxes; they exported jobs, increasing unemployment, and, therefore, the need for 'welfare', if that's what you choose to call it; they return NOTHING for what they have taken. They play their games, with the spoils of the war on the middle class, lose, and then make us pay for their losses.

And you're worried about the drop-in-a-bucket that is the combined total of Food Stamps, School Lunches, SSI, etc.

And retired military: be careful the same magnifying glass isn't applied to your cushy system. Many of you weren't drafted; you signed up because you couldn't find a job, or you were in trouble with the law, or mad at mommy and daddy. How are you any more entitled to lifetime medical care, a generous pension, free education, than any other citizen? Not that I begrudge those benefits, but whining about supposed 'welfare fraud' and how foreigners are polluting your country strikes me as particularly hypocritical, given that you live here in Thailand. In fact, the bird analogy is particularly appropriate: the Thais often see us as 'farang kee nok' - bird-shit foreigners. It's repugnant when Thais apply it to us, but equally so when the misguided, and misinformed apply it to others.

Note that I am NOT against Immigration reform, but hate-mongering isn't part of it.

Why not visit some of that anger on those who are responsible? Steal a loaf of bread to feed your family, and do 10 years; steal 750 billion dollars from taxpayers, and get another 750 billion bail out, and walk around free (or drive your Merc). I guess people hate small, and love large, even if the 'large' is a large thief. Human nature astounds.

I really get tired of this mean, heartless, selfish, and self-serving diatribe. Somewhere there's a rehab for viewers of Fox News. I hope those who believe in this crap find it, and can get a bed.

by **coxo** » October 3, 2011, 6:26 pm

Gotta agree with Sateev there 100%.
These far right junk generalisation emails designed to pull the heart strings are sick and of no benefit to anyone.

by **douglas** » October 3, 2011, 7:28 pm

Hi,
Sateev. I was not drafted, Although i could have been. i elected to join up to the RAF in 1956. During all my service with the R.A.F. i always paid what we call a stamp. Plus my income tax. etc., like other workers. Don't know if they do this in the U.S. but they do in the U.K., so don't brand every country the same. This stamp paid towards all our med., unimployment benifits and pensions. Just like a worker not in the military in the U.K., our entitlment and benifits and payments were the same, So i was not scrounging. I paid for it, like everyone else in the forces in the U.K.. So am entitiled to all my countries benifits. I was also able to find a job, but elected to join up, my chouice. Mainly because if i waited to be conscripted, to national service, which they had then, you had to serve for 2 years, i might not of got in to the R.A.F. which is what i wanted. I mst say i learned a good trade, Radar and Radio, plus a lot of other thing from the R.A.F. in my 16 years of service with them. and i thank them for that.
Please get the facts right.
Cheers Doug.
Ex. 19, Hunters and Lightings, 72 and 84, Meteors and Javilins, squadrons. All stationed in Yorkshire. Church Fenton and Leconfield

by **Sateev** » October 3, 2011, 7:37 pm

Uh, Doug, here's a news flash: it's NOT all about you.

Try reading my post again, especially the part where I state that I don't begrudge retired military their benefits. If anything, I support them, but not more so than a social safety net.

Seems to me, Doug, that you're one of those guys who doesn't take any crap, and spends a lot of time looking for crap not to take.

Out.

by **gudtymchuk** » October 3, 2011, 9:35 pm

Another "Sateev the Socialist Rant"........ =D>

Sateev wrote:Anyone who believes this has any relevance is a sap.

I refer you to UdonExpat's post on this thread: topic20653.html

Also, see tax paid by General Electric. Oops, you can't because they didn't pay any.

To paraphrase one great American, no one in America got rich alone. They used, and abused, a system paid for by working Americans, who pay an inordinate share of taxes; they exported jobs, increasing unemployment, and, therefore, the need for 'welfare', if that's what you choose to call it; they return NOTHING for what they have taken. They play their games, with the spoils of the war on the middle class, lose, and then make us pay for their losses.

And you're worried about the drop-in-a-bucket that is the combined total of Food Stamps, School Lunches, SSI, etc.

And retired military: be careful the same magnifying glass isn't applied to your cushy system. Many of you weren't drafted; you signed up because you couldn't find a job, or you were in trouble with the law, or mad at mommy and daddy. How are you any more entitled to lifetime medical care, a generous pension, free education, than any other citizen? Not that I begrudge those benefits, but whining about supposed 'welfare fraud' and how foreigners are polluting your country strikes me as particularly hypocritical, given that you live here in Thailand. In fact, the bird analogy is particularly appropriate: the Thais often see us as 'farang kee nok' - bird-shit foreigners. It's repugnant when Thais apply it to us, but equally so when the misguided, and misinformed apply it to others.

Note that I am NOT against Immigration reform, but hate-mongering isn't part of it.

Why not visit some of that anger on those who are responsible? Steal a loaf of bread to feed your family, and do 10 years; steal 750 billion dollars from taxpayers, and get another 750 billion bail out, and walk around free (or drive your Merc). I guess people hate small, and love large, even if the 'large' is a large thief. Human nature astounds.

I really get tired of this mean, heartless, selfish, and self-serving diatribe. Somewhere there's a rehab for viewers of Fox News. I hope those who believe in this crap find it, and can get a bed.

by **wayne747** » October 4, 2011, 3:47 am

True, let us have Laissez Faire absence of welfare.
Let's cut all pensions and veteran's payments - people should have saved up privately during their working years

by **douglas** » October 4, 2011, 9:08 am

Hi,
Sateev. You are 100% correct when you say i do not take crap, from someone who does not know what he is talking about, and spouting a load of false info.
You said, retired Mil, most were drafted. In the U.k this is incorrect. National Service, or being drafted ended before 1960. And most enlisted.
Many signed up because they could not find a job. Incorrect, Mil. training, if you went into the right way. Give you a very good training, I had three years training for my job in the R.A.F. Also a lot of people took their degree in the services, their family could not afford to send them to Uni.. I was also offered a number of jobs before i joined up But decided against it. And joined the R.A.F. My choice, which i am allowed.
Many signed up because of trouble with the law. Incorrect. The services would not have you if you were in trouble with the law.
Then you say how are you entitled to lifetime free med. care etc.. The simple answer to this is it was not free, i, and other people paid into it. Me when i was in the R.A.F. and in another job after i left the services. With what was called then a stamp and my tax payments. Yet again a incorrect statement from you.
Then you say Brits. are whingeing about foreigners. Who have not paid into these things. Getting the benifits. The Brits. have every right to Whinge about this. Tell me any other country that will give a person, who has just settled in that country, free first class Med. care, free education, subserdised housing, and pay them for not working. When they have not paid a penny into the system.
Thank god this is all going to change in a few years time. Then you can whinge about that.
Please if you do not know the facts, don't just think them up. Or investigate the subject before stating incorrect details.
At least you got your name correct.
Cheers Doug.

by **Sateev** » October 4, 2011, 9:19 am

Doug - I hate to say this, but you need reading glasses (or lessons):

You said, retired Mil, most were drafted.

I said 'weren't drafted'.

I never mentioned Brits, anywhere in my post. In fact, it was in response to Semperfi's original post. He is, I believe, retired USMC, and partially in response to a similar post by US Army Veteran, whose name speaks for itself.

You apparently read what you want to read, which, also apparently, has nothing to do with what was posted. I'm sorry for you, but I stand by what I (actually) said.

No need to answer. Have a nice life.

by **nkstan** » October 4, 2011, 10:03 am

Douglas,In America there is a distinction between juvenile and adult problems with the law.As a 16 yr. old juvenile,I was given a choice of signing up for the miltary and going to boot camp on my 1 th birthday or going to Juvenile corrections until I was 18.I chose the military.

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