A Thai woman with Balls

A Thai Girl With Balls
By Old Bill in Cyprus

http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSu ... er5106.htm

I must start this submission with apologies.

First, I said in my last piece that that would be the last one about this particular Thai girl. I was wrong.

Second, in a previous submission I used the technical terms ‘boom-boom’, ‘yum-yum’ and ‘ow-ow’ without attributing them to Dana or at least pointing out from whom I had learned the latter two. In my defence, at that time I was in the process of changing apartments and dependent on wandering wi-fi so was unable to research former submissions properly.

And I add my familiar caveat – that I know nothing about the ‘scene’ in Thailand other than what I learn here and my experiences are purely ‘one on one’ with a girl who happens to be Thai, or rather half Thai, half Lao.

Because every submission here should be ‘freestanding’ I must repeat a few things. I met my ‘TGF’ here in Cyprus. She was living with her Mum (who has been here 20 years) and working with her in a local Thai restaurant. Crap pay, conditions and generally abused but better than home. P and I spent some time together before I succumbed to the white knight syndrome and bought her a ticket home with a plan that she and I could have a life in Thailand together. Wrong plan, went wrong, but I did send her money over about a year.

Recently I refused to send her any more money and met Mum (a 4’10” firebrand) to talk about P’s problems. I told her various things – including P’s recent change of ‘formal’ name at the wat, which Mum didn’t know about – Mum spoke to P by phone and the outcome was that P sent me a SMS text message saying ‘don’t contact me again’. Fair enough because that was my plan anyway. Move on, don’t be be so stupid again, all those sort of things (but I can’t deny it hurt).

And then, a week later, I started to receive SMS text messages again.

The first said ‘Can u help me money just 10,000 baht this time’. (Last request was 20,000.)

Then ‘Please help me’.

I replied ‘I think you are just making a joke and having a laugh. Mai pen rai. (A mutual friend) says hello’.

Very quickly: ‘Say hello (friend) for me! Ok can you help! I need you help! Me just only this time.’

I replied and told her that she must think I am another stupid farang and that she only cares about money. That I was moving on and one day would find a genuine woman. ‘OK’ she said ‘I hope you happy with new girl but please just help me this last time’. Then ‘I think you very good man and take care me’.

My reply was to the effect that if she could not be bothered to answer her phone, communicate by e-mail and whatever how could she expect anything from me? Her answer: ‘Sorry if I give you problem. I work and I tired’. I was by this time too weary to reply.

But ... this morning, three SMS text messages, so far unanswered.

1. ‘Please, just this time I need your help me! I’m sorry if I make you angry!’

2. ‘Can u help me!’

3. ‘Just this time please! I had only u help me! Please.’

Of course, I won’t. But whatever my feelings for her now I admire her for her balls and (as we Brits say) her brass-neck cheek. She knows that I am in contact with Momma and as far as she knows I will relay the messages. As far as P knows I am in contact with at least one of her friends (the one who told me about her new car) and yet she still plays the game.

I was talking a couple of days ago to my friend here about P. He’s been a good mate for about four years, one who applies the brick when needed (a previous submission) and got to know P quite well. Many days he, Momma, P and I would go for lunch together. Some nights he, P and I and would have a drink together after she finished work before P and I wandered off together to spend time alone. He was genuinely shocked when I told him how things had worked out.

He told me/reminded me of some things I didn’t know of or chose to forget at the time. Some of the things were very positive – she wanted everything to be 50/50, she didn’t want any money from me, I was a ‘good man’, jai dee, and how we could make a life together. Others I had chosen to forget – she got a job dancing on stage in a short mini-skirt (‘Don’t tell Momma’), she was chosen as ‘Miss Harley-Davison’, how she could talk to a guy in a bar then ask me ‘Do I make you jealous?’ (Yes of course she did). But also when she told him that when she and I had a life in Thailand together he must come for a visit. And, most poignant of all, how she told us about the day she and I would go to Udon Thani and collect her son to take him to his new life.

One response to a previous submission (and I’m always grateful for them) suggested that she may be as confused as I am. To be honest as a chauvinistic and cynical male I would be tempted (for educational rather than erotic purposes, not that there’s anything wrong with that) to spank her ass until we arrived at some sort of dialogue.

I am, of course, just another stupid and gullible farang, a buffalo. But there is still something that tells me ‘she is different’. More information is needed, and perhaps it is time for another talk with Momma ...



Stickman's thoughts:

Good on you for standing up to her. I am appalled at the way too many give in. If she could not be bothered to answer your calls or reply to SMSs and only contacts you when she wants money, she is not worthy of your time.
The author can be contacted at : oldbillincyprus@live.com.

the prequel
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Conversation with Momma Nong – And The Outcome
By Old Bill In Cyprus
http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSu ... er5083.htm

This will probably be my final submission about my dealings with a Thai girl/woman or at least with that particular girl. I confess that I am afflicted by SE Asian women and this is not like AA where you swear never to give in to temptation again, is it?

I already realised, thanks in part to advice from people here, that things were going nowhere. I had not seen P for a year, her requests for money continued but the flow of communication had diminished, to say the least, and the most recent request for 20,000 baht so she could go to Udon Thani to visit her family for New Year (Songkran?) was the last straw.

Our situation was unusual in that I met her here, not in TL, and that I see and talk to her mum most days. Mum has been here 20 years working hard and sending most of her money back to TL to support P and her brother and to provide for her own retirement. (Momma is coming up to 50).

I told P that I couldn’t help her and told her I would talk about her problems with Momma Nong next time I saw her. I didn’t anticipate seeing Nong in a situation where we could talk any time soon, but I thought it would be an interesting point to make. P’s reaction was that I should forget her and she would be OK. To be honest, I couldn’t see much if any future with P. She wants to live in TL and from what I see of recent news I don’t, certainly with a woman who is short on communication.

(Just an irreverent thought here – is the helicopter service also available to those standing on building roofs and contemplating joining the PFC?)

Purely by coincidence I met Momma Nong a few days ago. I had gone (unusually) to a bar where my friends were performing a music act and she saw me as she walked home from work, about midnight. It was the first time I had seen her after her work for many months. She called me and asked if she could meet me there a half-hour later.

So we met, I bought her a drink. She had just done a seven-hour shift in the restaurant kitchen (after a three-hour shift earlier in the day). She wanted to go home, shower, etc. before she met me. The ‘face’ thing I suppose. She brought with her some spicy dry-fried beef which was exactly the right thing to eat with cold beer at that time of night. And we talked, and talked.

I have apologised before for making submissions when I have so little knowledge of the ‘scene’ in TL. But I have met, and come to know, a Thai girl, her mum, and her background, and perhaps I can comment on this one individual person. And I want to make this point, that everyone is an individual no matter where they come from or what they do to make money and they should be treated as such and with (as others have pointed out) due respect.

Momma Nong told me a lot about her life. I report this as she told me. Her husband, the father of P and her elder brother, left her before P was born. Nong kept going as long as she could. She is actually Lao (and looks it) but found work in various places in TL, then here (they think she is Thai), so she could send money for her children. The father has been a monk since he left her.

Son went a bit wild but has now settled down and Momma has started to buy a house for him. The house she bought for P has about €1,500 left on the bank loan.

About three years ago P met her father for the first time. Momma Nong took her to the wat. The father asked ‘Who is this girl?’ Shortly after this, P entered a wat herself for several months (P told me this herself).

P had a son when she was 18/19. He now lives with his paternal grand-parents in Udon Thani. His father was married (she told me she found out too late). She sends money to support him (and so have I). He is doing very well in school.

I explained all my doubts about P – all the things so common here about a relationship with an attractive Thai woman – and she told me about her fears for P too. This is one reason which prompts me to submit this. Maybe some farang involved with Thai women don’t have the benefit of talking with their mothers.

Momma Nong started crying but I kept pushing. P is a profligate spender, no doubt about that. And she likes to be ‘Queen Bee’. But all her friends are middle-aged family women. Momma Nong told me that that P has nobody else in her life, that she has decided she is better to live alone (as has Momma, she said) unless she and I can work something out.

I took a deep breath and asked the crucial question – and I was ready to believe the answer because of the point we had reached in the conversation and because of the state Momma was in by now. ‘Is P a good girl, or is she a working girl?’ She knew what I meant. ‘Yes’ she said, and I believe she meant it. ‘You and P, you must just take your time’.

We talked about P’s present circumstances – she has found a good job and has bought a new car. ‘Ah yes’ I said ‘The white Toyota’. ‘Yes’ said Momma ‘There was a better deal on a new one’.

Anyway, we parted, and she told me she hoped to speak to P soon.

She obviously did, because in the last 24 hours I received a flurry of SMS text messages from P, clearly unhappy that I had spoken to Momma.

The first told me that if I really cared for her, I would send her the 20,000 baht she asked for because her family were coming from Udon Thani to visit her for New Year. (When she first asked for the money she was going to Udon Thani to visit them).

The second said that she knew I had spoken with her Mum and she was not happy about that.

The third asked how I knew about her new car – and which of her friends am I in contact with?

The fourth said ‘Don’t contact me again’.

All in all, a sad story. I suppose I feel most sorry for Momma Nong. She lives here in a foreign country working in a crap job sending all her money home for a son and a daughter she doesn’t really know.

As for P – you’ve had a **** life so far. You are getting a little old at 28 to find what you really need, which is a rich and naive farang to give you what you really want and need. But I wish you well. Things could have been very different. I hope you will be happy.

And in the spirit of the mongers on the Stick site – I happened to bump into a Greek Cypriot friend a couple of days ago. He has many friends among the Thai community here – but is now making friends with Filipinas.

He reports that short time with Filipinas is €20, long time €30 plus. (Momma Nong confirmed these figures obscurely during our conversation when she was pointing out that P is a good girl). This doesn’t really do it for me but after recent experiences I am tempted...



Stickman's thoughts:

Sorry to hear things didn't work out...
The author can be contacted at : oldbillincyprus@live.com.