Alzheimer's: Diet 'can stop brain shrinking'

by **BobHelm** » December 31, 2011, 1:00 pm

I know that there are 'claims' about this, that & the other hugely improving, or destroying, your health & life on the Internet every day, but I did think that this one at least deserved an airing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16344228

It is important because it actually tested the make up of people's blood, rather than just relying on what they said they did.
It is a very small study though (less than 100 people) & so much more work needs to be done.

It is sometimes difficult to differentiate between what people do & the result of that.
In the case of diet & Alzheimer's, for example, does the continued concern that the individual shows about their well being actually more important than what they are doing about it.
Are the results due to diet, or due to continued active mental attitude that the individual has, in general.

Finally, I guess

, would continued repeats of these results lead to Governments imposing an upper age limit for the purchasers of junk food in a sort of reverse on the laws on Alcohol. Something like having to prove that you are under 60 before purchasing a Big Mac???

by **FrazeeDK** » January 2, 2012, 8:02 am

Vitamin B-12 supplements also enhances neroutransmitter activity. Studies of Alzheimer patients as well as other older folks show that Vitamin B12 supplements enhance memory and thinking ability. So, for those of you suffering from CRS (Can't Remember Shite) as you've grown older, you might consider taking B-12 daily. This is more important for people taking proton inhibiters such as Prilosec, Omeprazole, Miracid. These medicines for high stomach acid and reflux reduce the level of stomach acid which inhibits Vitamin B1-2 absorption in the stomach..

by **semperfiguy** » January 2, 2012, 7:01 pm

FrazeeDK wrote:Vitamin B-12 supplements also enhances neroutransmitter activity. Studies of Alzheimer patients as well as other older folks show that Vitamin B12 supplements enhance memory and thinking ability. So, for those of you suffering from CRS (Can't Remember Shite) as you've grown older, you might consider taking B-12 daily. This is more important for people taking proton inhibiters such as Prilosec, Omeprazole, Miracid. These medicines for high stomach acid and reflux reduce the level of stomach acid which inhibits Vitamin B1-2 absorption in the stomach..

Any idea where to buy these B-12 supplements locally...and at what price? Thanks for the info FrazeeDK!

by **lepidoptra** » January 2, 2012, 7:31 pm

semperfiguy wrote:Any idea where to buy these B-12 supplements locally...

I buy mine from a local pharmacy where I buy my Dettol =D>

by **Jello** » January 2, 2012, 8:14 pm

A 100g serving of any shellfish, liver, squid, or fish will give you 200% or more of the FDA's
recomended daily alowance of B-12. All meat and dairy products also contain B-12.

If your eating a health diet, and you don't have any health problems or take med's that would prevent
absorbing B-12 you should be ok.

I use to take supplements but find them too expensive here in Thailand. Had some sent over from the U.S.
and was hit with a big import tax from customs when they arrived. Now I just take a multi-vitamin (centrum Silver for old gits) and eat a balanced diet. I eat fish at least twice a week for the omega-3, and it's high in B-12.

by **jackspratt** » January 2, 2012, 8:25 pm

To avoid the Thai customs issues, I bring back fish oil and multivitamins every time I return from Oz.

For the past 10 years or so, I have taken a multivitamin tablet, and 2 x fish oil 1500mg capsules (previously 1000mg) every morning. I have never been healthier. $\:D/$

If I forget to post in the near-term, obviously it has not worked.

by **Jello** » January 2, 2012, 8:56 pm

jackspratt wrote:For the past 10 years or so, I have taken a multivitamin tablet, and 2 x fish oil 1500mg capsules (previously 1000mg) every morning. I have never been healthier. $\:D/$

Do you have a health condition where you need this much?
From mayoclinic.com: The World Health Organization and governmental health agencies of several countries recommend consuming 0.3-0.5 grams of daily EPA + DHA.
EPA is omega-3, DHA is omega-6 fish oils.

Your taking 6 times the recommended amount of fish oil. Are you growing gills yet? :lol:

by **parrot** » January 2, 2012, 9:24 pm

I think I've found the organic way to stop my feeble brain from shrinking. No pills necessary.......just an hour or so a day wracking my brain over Thai grammar, pronunciation, etc. There are days when I have to limit myself to 45 minutes or less, less my brain explode......so my method must be working!

by **jackspratt** » January 2, 2012, 9:33 pm

Jello wrote:Your taking 6 times the recommended amount of fish oil. Are you growing gills yet?

Not that I am aware of - but I can swim underwater for 6 - 8 minutes without taking a breath.

Could this be related?

by **BobHelm** » January 2, 2012, 9:43 pm

From Wiki.....

Maximum intake

The FDA says it is safe to take up to 3000 mg of omega-3 per day.[45] (This is not the same as 3000 mg of fish oil. A 1000 mg pill typically has only 300 mg of omega-3; 10 such pills would equal 3000 mg of omega-3.) Dyerberg studied healthy Greenland Eskimos and found an average intake of 5700 mg of omega-3 EPA per day.[46]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil

by **Jello** » January 2, 2012, 9:57 pm

Ah, good. Thanks Bob. I'd hate for Jack to start looking like this-

by **JimboPSM** » January 2, 2012, 10:12 pm

jackspratt wrote:..... If I forget to post in the near-term, obviously it has not worked.

There is hope for you should that occur.

Ernest Saunders (the former Guinness CEO) who was jailed in 1990 for his part in the Guinness share-trading fraud, was released early from his jail sentence because he was diagnosed as suffering from Alzheimer’s disease; once released, he forgot he had it and was quickly able to resume a highly paid business career :-k

by **Jello** » January 6, 2012, 8:39 pm

Here's some symptoms to watch out for if you think your developing Alzheimer's (From the Mayo Clinic webpage):

Memory
Everyone has occasional memory lapses. It's normal to lose track of where you put your keys or forget the name of an acquaintance.
But the memory loss associated with Alzheimer's disease persists and gets worse. People with Alzheimer's may:

Repeat statements and questions over and over
Forget conversations, appointments or events, and not remember them later
Routinely misplace possessions, often putting them in illogical locations
Eventually forget the names of family members and everyday objects

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzhei ... N=symptoms

Here's some symptoms to watch out for if you think your developing Alzheimer's (From the Mayo Clinic webpage):

Memory
Everyone has occasional memory lapses. It's normal to lose track of where you put your keys or forget the name of an acquaintance.
But the memory loss associated with Alzheimer's disease persists and gets worse. People with Alzheimer's may:

Repeat statements and questions over and over
Forget conversations, appointments or events, and not remember them later
Routinely misplace possessions, often putting them in illogical locations
Eventually forget the names of family members and everyday objects

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzhei ... N=symptoms

Here's some symptoms to watch out for if you think your developing Alzheimer's (From the Mayo Clinic webpage):

Memory
Everyone has occasional memory lapses. It's normal to lose track of where you put your keys or forget the name of an acquaintance.
But the memory loss associated with Alzheimer's disease persists and gets worse. People with Alzheimer's may:

Repeat statements and questions over and over
Forget conversations, appointments or events, and not remember them later
Routinely misplace possessions, often putting them in illogical locations
Eventually forget the names of family members and everyday objects

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzhei ... N=symptoms

by **jackspratt** » January 6, 2012, 8:47 pm

Did you forget where you left the fish oil caps Jello?

ps 3000mg/day is the maximum, unless you want to end up looking like this:

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