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Re: Another Hurdle?????

Postby RALPHCUSENS » August 1, 2009, 12:07 am

jimboLV wrote:Thanks for that, Ralph. That clears it up. A group of sincere, dedicated individuals (albeit with no authority to actually do anything) genuinely discussing ways to make a difference. Their efforts are to be applauded, and will certainly bear fruit eventually. =D> The lifeblood of a vibrant society. I have participated in such efforts in a past life.

Now we can get back to discussing the more serious issues on the forum, like defective drill sets, who drives on what side of the road, and most importantly, what to do about being constantly accosted by prostitutes as one visits the various retail establishments here in Udon. :D


Not quite so Jimbo, these working groups are official government bodies, charged to collate and report on certain subjects, and make recommendations to central Government.

So its not a group of "sincere, dedicated individuals" Its Full Time Government employees!!, however how much sway they have , I've no idea!
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Re: Another Hurdle?????

Postby jimboLV » August 1, 2009, 6:17 am

RALPHCUSENS wrote:
Not quite so Jimbo, these working groups are official government bodies, charged to collate and report on certain subjects, and make recommendations to central Government.

So its not a group of "sincere, dedicated individuals" Its Full Time Government employees!!, however how much sway they have , I've no idea!


Well Ralph, "Full Time Government employees" can still be sincere and dedicated. \:D/ In America we call these "focus groups". I have participated in some, even moderated a few. Their reports generally are filed away, mostly unread. I suspect the same applies in Thailand. But we shall see. :-"
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Re: Another Hurdle?????

Postby saint » August 1, 2009, 8:02 am

ralph has only given us a warning of what was discussed at the meeting . will it ever come to fruition ? who knows . i for one dont realy care , ill worry about it if, and when it happens . lifes far too short to be worrying about maybes !!!!! ive more important things to worry about , like , why do my two thai dogs think there goats ! is my grass getting too long ! why cant i putt ! why does it always rain when im on a golf course ! is that girl smiling at me because she wants to supplement her income ! what the hell am i going to eat tonight for a change ! these things are important to me right now , if immagration ever decide they want us all insured and super healthy , then and only then will i worry about it . 8-[ 8-[
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Re: Another Hurdle?????

Postby trubrit » August 1, 2009, 8:29 am

RALPHCUSENS wrote:I have information that serious consideration is being considered, to include the requirement for Visa applicants to have adequate Medical insurance when applying for a Visa. :| :| :|


Lets consider this opening post. It is absolutely correct. I was there and came to the same conclusion but didn't report on it because it was , like many of these so called seminars ,merely a thought identifying process.Ideas are tossed into the air like so many balloons. Some will stick to the ceiling, some will deflate and fall to the ground.In this instance it would appear this one has stuck as a further seminar has been scheduled for this Monday in Udon at which the team from central immigration office will be present.Maybe after this either Ralph or myself may be in a better position to clarify our understanding of the visa implications.Maybe not.!
But a little background info may not go amiss.
For some time now it has been a concern of the govt that many farang do not have the financial ability to withstand a major health crisis in their life. Unfortunately this is most apparent in the group holding retirement visa's, who , unfortunately face a double whammy ,in that as older citizens they are more likely to be ill but at the same time , because of their age are denied insurance cover at an affordable cost.The obvious answer, at least as far as immigration is concerned appears to be another requirement that needs to be satisfied to qualify.Fortunately the govt organisation holding the seminars Ralph and I attend have a far more sympathetic approach to the problem and are working with the appropriate health care providers, hospitals, doctors and nursing staff to come up with a rather more affordable answer to the problem.I don't want to go into great detail as its another floating balloon at present but it centers round the current social security that is available to all Thai people in full time employment, whereby for a monthly contribution , I think its about 450 bht, they are covered for most hospital stays and medication, simply paying for the room if they require upgrade from a standard ward. This naturally is in govt run hospitals not private ones . Although I understand Wattana does accept the standard benefit payable to offset against their charges.Now no specific cost to the farang has been mentioned so if implemented that would still have to be decided. The first hurdle to overcome would be to ensure it meets with the immigration requirement as to our ability to pay should we need treatment.
So please gentlemen. No jumping to conclusions about those 'wicked" immigration people placing more obstacles in our path. They are doing what any govt is entitled to do. Making sure immigrants to the country do not become a burden to the country. Other govt depts are actually fighting in our corner to find an answer acceptable to all parties.That is why I ,and I am sure Ralph as well are proud to be asked to help them in that task.
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Re: Another Hurdle?????

Postby BKKSTAN » August 1, 2009, 9:20 am

Good points,Saint and well put ,TrueBrit! :D No sense of going to the ''what if'' shelf at this point! :D

Mod Note - Good Points - Thread now locked, has reached a natural conclusion.
Can be re-opened if new information becomes available in the future
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