China suspends military ties with US

All Debts Suspended Indefinitely as US and China Enter a Cold War

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No not really, but it is one of those things that make one go...hmmmm....

Are you writing headlines for Fox News?

"hmmmmmmmmm", what? Don't we go through this sort of thing with China/Taiwan every few years? China'll get over it just as they've gotten over it all the times previous.

This thread's title is unmitigated bullsh~t.

It's a khondamn idiot's idea.

China is simply objecting, as they always when do, when the US provides something tangible or intangible to Taiwan. I would hardly consider this a state of war.

What should concern many Americans is that China is repsonding from a position of leverage and power since they have allowed the US to borrow money from them, and China has purchased so much of the US debt.

The title of this thread is another example of the fertile imagination of KhonDahm running wild again.

The two countries did have a inconclusive war during 1950-1953 in Korea. Of course, it was a United Nation's force taking on the North Koreans and China, but the United States was the greatest contributor in men and material for the good guys.

It took Mr. Nixon's visit to Peking and Shanghai in the early '70s to end the original Cold War between the leader of the running dog imperialists and the loonies of the left in charge of killing off many of its citizens.

'China', Mao said in 1949, 'has stood up'. Now, China is really standing up and exerting their power in many places around the world as any imperialist power would do.

china has bought a lot of uk debt and companys. watch them within the next 3 yrs. its a pity they did not buy labour and put us all out of our missery

MALC wrote:china has bought a lot of uk debt and companys. watch them within the next 3 yrs. its a pity they did not buy labour and put us all out of our missery

WBU ALUM wrote:What should concern many Americans is that China is repsonding from a position of leverage and power since they have allowed the US to borrow money from them, and China has purchased so much of the US debt.

China wouldn't have to launch a fighting war when they want to take over.....just forclose.

That was exactly my point, Farang1.

Just for the sake of argument,,,,, what do you all think would happen,, really happen,,, if the Chinese and the US came to a serious confrontation in the future, something so serious that the world was in fear of a shooting war, and the Chinese called in their markers, attempting to exert maximum pain? and the US determined that they simply wouldn't pay? What could the Chinese really do? except complain to the international community or go to war?

I think the Chinese do not want a confrontation that serious, anything that would keep the US from continuing to pay the debts on the T-bills. And yes, I understand the debts are based upon "the full faith and credit of the United States, etc, etc",,,, but survival is survival.......... and it does the Chinese no good to be left holding the bag,,,,,

LoongLee wrote:Just for the sake of argument,,,,, what do you all think would happen,, really happen,,, if the Chinese and the US came to a serious confrontation in the future, something so serious that the world was in fear of a shooting war, and the Chinese called in their markers, attempting to exert maximum pain? and the US determined that they simply wouldn't pay? What could the Chinese really do? except complain to the international community or go to war?

I think the Chinese do not want a confrontation that serious, anything that would keep the US from continuing to pay the debts on the T-bills. And yes, I understand the debts are based upon "the full faith and credit of the United States, etc, etc",,,, but survival is survival.......... and it does the Chinese no good to be left holding the bag,,,,,

A war versus China? Nah. Would never happen.

#1 The US has no money to fund another war. Indeed, we continue to borrow from China to finance the ongoing wars we have now. There was saying - I forgot where I heard it - but it went something like: "Before you go to war, always make sure your money is right."

#2 The first thing China would do is flood the world with the $2,000,000,000,000++ dollars it is holding. Dollar tanks. Inflation soars. US economy (and the world economy) collapses. War over. Can't fight a war with fuel at $1,000/gallon or whatever it would be if that happened.

jackspratt wrote:Things aren't like "times previous" parrot.

China now appears to see itself as very close in status to the US in geopolitical terms, and getting a lot closer in economic terms, and is thus asserting itself accordingly.

Can't be a bad thing as far as I am concerned.

Really?You prefer China and their policies to the USA?

globalism... Sure the Chinese have drunk the U.S. debt koolaid by buying that debt in T-Bills.. and, in return, they'll get the interest off those T-Bills but are on the hook if they do anything to threaten the economic viability of the U.S. Add to that the fact that the U.S. is a key trading partner of China nad you end up with (pardon the metaphor) a Siamese conjoined twin where both will die if you separate them... So, the current brouhaha about Taiwan is pretty much political posturing (as always) for the home consumption.

Remember too that although the Chinese have a long term goal (maybe 15-25 years) of having an "expeditionary" military with true global projection capability, right now, they got diddly when it comes to going toe-to-toe with the U.S. in a rock-em, sock-em military shootout.. I'd suspect that the U.S. could quite quickly take out the sea-air-land assets of the PRC in a week or so..

"where both will die if you separate them"

Or something along the lines of Mutual Assured Destruction.....to both economies!