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Control of dangerous drugs - UK story

Postby BobHelm » January 24, 2011, 11:36 am

I have no idea what to call this thread...
I also really don't want to start a discussion about the use of the death penalty & if anyone does, then can they start a new thread in the debates section of the Forum.

This just seems such an odd story to me.
How would a number of different American State institution 'discover' a UK pharmacy company willing to sell them these products. I would have thought that there were companies much nearer to them.
Did anyone realise that they were dealing with a 'company' that is based in a driving school & would appear to be a 'one man band'??
What other products exactly does Dream Pharma sell??
Where do they obtain the products from?
Exactly what qualifications does someone need in the UK to set up a company selling highly dangerous drugs.
What restrictions are then placed on that company concerning re-sales/storage/quality control??

Drug sold in UK to be used for execution in Georgia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12263460
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Re: Control of dangerous drugs - UK story

Postby 21again » January 24, 2011, 12:28 pm

Bob, i always thought dangerous drugs had to be manufactured in a safe and secure environment, mainly for theft, misuse and safety factors, but i think not in this case.
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Re: Control of dangerous drugs - UK story

Postby BobHelm » January 24, 2011, 12:35 pm

I imagine that he was not manufacturing 21, just buying from someone & then re-selling.
But even if that was the case you would have thought that some basic checks would have been done on the company.
As the law in the UK is so draconian in what can often be seen as 'trivial' cases I am amazed that it would appear to be so lax in this case...
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Re: Control of dangerous drugs - UK story

Postby jimboLV » January 24, 2011, 12:36 pm

Bob I'm as mystified as you as to why American prisons would have to import a drug from England. There are all kinds of drugs available that will kill a person painlessly, used every day in US hospitals. For instance when I had open heart surgery (in the US), they fitted an IV in my hand and started an IV drip, then told me to count backward from 10. I remember getting to 8. Then they inserted all kinds of tubes, including a urine catheter :yikes: then sliced me open, used a sawsall to cut my breastbone open, sliced open my leg and removed a vein to graft onto my heart, wired my breastbone back together, and sewed me back up. I woke up 24 hours later and hadn't felt a thing until the nurse fiendishly ripped out the catheter with a smirk on her face. (I remember thinking "this one bears watching") The only pain I can remember feeling was a slight prick when they initially inserted the IV.

I've never understood why they can't use whatever drug that was, to put the miscreant to sleep, then they are free to use whatever else to administer the coupe de grace.

The only thing I can figure (put on your conspiracy hat here) is that this drug is specified in the various state laws regarding executions, and was put there as a "poison pill" by opponents of the death penalty who knew they could never get it outlawed, so this makes a perfect obstacle for delaying executions interminably. Other than that, I have no idea.

Personally I think the French had the right idea, the guillotine in public, but let's not get into that on this thread. :D
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Re: Control of dangerous drugs - UK story

Postby BobHelm » January 24, 2011, 12:47 pm

jimboLV wrote:The only thing I can figure (put on your conspiracy hat here) is that this drug is specified in the various state laws regarding executions, and was put there as a "poison pill" by opponents of the death penalty who knew they could never get it outlawed, so this makes a perfect obstacle for delaying executions interminably.


That does, indeed, make perfect sense Jimbo & something I had not considered.
It would appear that this route has been stopped now.
Business Secretary Vince Cable introduced a ban on the export of sodium thiopental in December.

& he is also apparently considering banning another 2 drugs used for the same purpose.

It looks like Mr. Mehdi Alavi was actually quite a smart cookie & spotted a 'gap in the market'. I would imagine that it would be fairly easy for him to actually relocate the physical shipment overseas to a country not banning exports if the business was profitable enough for him & there is still a supply issue for the States using lethal injection.
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