Deadly shootings at US army base

Some sad news - from the BBC News website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8345713.stm

Deadly shootings at US army base

Deadly shootings at US army base

US army base gunman is now in custody

A US army major has opened fire on fellow soldiers at the Fort Hood military base in Texas, with death toll now standing at 12, with 30 injured.

Base commander Lt Gen Bob Cone has now said that the gunman was not killed, as earlier stated, but is in custody.

Two other suspects were questioned, but the army now says only one gunman was involved in the incident.

Lt Gen Cone said the motive for the shooting was not known. One of the dead was a policeman, others were soldiers.

President Barack Obama described it as "a horrific outburst of violence".

Eleven victims were initially reported dead, but one of the injured died, bringing the death toll to 12.

The gunman has been named Major Nidal Malik Hasan. He is now said to be wounded after being shot a number of times, but in a stable condition in custody.

"His death is not imminent," said Lt Gen Cone.

Maj Hasan was reportedly a military psychiatrist in his late 30s or early 40s and due to be sent on a mission to Iraq.

Speaking at a press conference in Washington, President Obama said: "It is difficult enough when we lose these brave men and women abroad, but it is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on US soil."

He extended his condolences to the families of the victims, adding: "We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident."

Mr Obama said the White House was working with the Pentagon, FBI and Department of Homeland Security to make sure Fort Hood was secure.

Whilst we don't yet know the background, or reasons for the attack, this will no doubt add further concerns about terrorists "infiltrating" military bases.

arjay wrote:Some sad news - from the BBC News website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8345713.stm
Whilst we don't yet know the background, or reasons for the attack, this will no doubt add further concerns about terrorists "infiltrating" military bases.

Or indeed as seems likely here , just terrorist sympathizers .

I am sure most of you would have read the terrible news about what happened in the Texas army base with 13 soldiers dead and a further 30 others injured and all this by a Major in the US army who was a military psychiatrist .
In reading the reports I see that he was totally anti Afghanistan and argued frequently with other officers on this. He was also being investigated for possible links to an extremist organisation.
Why then was he being transerred to Afghanistan? Is this a question whereby the Army should be looking at their vetting proceedures not just at enlistment but keeping track of things as they go on.
It is further stated that he received a poor performance evaluation. so once again why did they even think of posting him overseas. Did they think they could get the problem out of their own hair.
Thank God I have never neede to see a psychiatrist and now will never consider to do so. They are obvious;y worse than their patients!!!!

tinyterry wrote:Thank God I have never neede to see a psychiatrist and now will never consider to do so. They are obvious;y worse than their patients!!!!

You really shouldn't judge all the pschiatrists by the actions of one. Same as people shouldn't judge the Udon farang community by the actions of a couple idiots.

The reason Major Hasan was being investigated was for a post he did on the internet that compaired suiside bombers to soldiers that threw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of his fellow soldiers, making them heros. The line of thought being, by killing some infedels when they blew themselves up, there would be less to kill Muslems thus, saving their lives. I am sure he is disappointed that he wasn't kill.

Why is this topic under the heading, general topics on Udon Thani? Should it not be under World News? It has nothing to do with Udonthani.

Tilokarat wrote:Why is this topic under the heading, general topics on Udon Thani? Should it not be under World News? It has nothing to do with Udonthani.

Sorry I am a new boy to this site if I have made a bobo please excuse and maybe it can be moved accordingly.
Regards Terry

My original post was put in the wrong place, apologies.

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by tinyterry on November 6, 2009, 4:23 pm

I am sure most of you would have read the terrible news about what happened in the Texas army base with 13 soldiers dead and a further 30 others injured and all this by a Major in the US army who was a military psychiatrist .
In reading the reports I see that he was totally anti Afghanistan and argued frequently with other officers on this. He was also being investigated for possible links to an extremist organisation.
Why then was he being transerred to Afghanistan? Is this a question whereby the Army should be looking at their vetting proceedures not just at enlistment but keeping track of things as they go on.
It is further stated that he received a poor performance evaluation. so once again why did they even think of posting him overseas. Did they think they could get the problem out of their own hair.
Thank God I have never neede to see a psychiatrist and now will never consider to do so. They are obvious;y worse than their patients!!!!tinyterry
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by Farang1 on November 6, 2009, 5:03 pm

tinyterry wrote:
Thank God I have never neede to see a psychiatrist and now will never consider to do so. They are obvious;y worse than their patients!!!!

You really shouldn't judge all the pschiatrists by the actions of one. Same as people shouldn't judge the Udon farang community by the actions of a couple idiots.

The reason Major Hasan was being investigated was for a post he did on the internet that compaired suiside bombers to soldiers that threw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of his fellow soldiers, making them heros. The line of thought being, by killing some infedels when they blew themselves up, there would be less to kill Muslems thus, saving their lives. I am sure he is disappointed that he wasn't kill.Farang1
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Tilokarat wrote:
Why is this topic under the heading, general topics on Udon Thani? Should it not be under World News? It has nothing to do with Udonthani.

Sorry I am a new boy to this site if I have made a bobo please excuse and maybe it can be moved accordingly.
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In answer to farang 1 I would say that my comments on psychiatrists was not too serious a comment however the rest of my post was.

It would appear that you have missed my main point as to why the US system did not pick up on him earlier with both his objections to his fellow officers and the fact that he was rated poor in his job.

A quote "
Retired Colonel Terry Lee, who worked with Hasan, claimed the major was anti-war and rowed with comrades who supported operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hasan, a 39-year-old from Virginia, was also due to be sent to Afghanistan, something family members said would have been his "worst nightmare"

In view of what has happened in the US to date would suppose that they would have or should have picked up on this man. Why for Gods sake consider sending him to Afghanistan to get more training!!!!
The US has many agencies like the UK that looks for these sort of tendancies. I will be interested to see if they have any comments on this matter.

The confirmed death toll now stands at 13 as one wounded has since died.

Probably all of us have committed boo-boos of this kind. Don't worry about it (baw pen yang dawk). The moderators will correct the error in time.

The two topics have been merged into thh one existing under World News.

Arjay, have you developed a lisp?!?