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Re: Does God exist?

Postby Khun Paul » February 7, 2009, 7:18 am

End of story.

Not quite old friend the story in fact has not got an ending it just evolves like this post has, beliefs are something noone can impose on another although many try and to some extent succeed.

Whatever one believes one must be at peace with yourself first, if that is so, then your beliefs are as far as you are aware yours and you rest easy.

Trying to answer the imponderables are a luxury few have the time money or even to inclination to dwell on.
That is why they are imponderable and in many cases unanswerable but they do make one think, and this post has certainly made people think and look at things in a different light I hope.

We are but a fragile living organism on this planet our life span is short not as short as some longer in fact than most except for the plant life and some creatures, but in the cosmos a mere speck.
I am at peace with my beliefs and I sincerely hope that we are all at peace with oursleves and so may I have the temerity to say, so endeth this lesson .
May all your gods ( whomsoever you beleive in or not , as the case may be) go with each and every one of you.
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby UdonExpat » February 15, 2009, 7:10 am

Here's George Carlin's take on it. Once again, a provocative point of view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&NR=1
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby BKKSTAN » February 15, 2009, 8:43 am

GC is dead now and was a proclaimed aetheist which he accenuated through his comedy acts!Even religious pople could laugh at his comedy.This paricular act was ''Religion is BS'' and is quite funny!

But from a more serious side,it seems to me that people with ''faith'',a strong belief in something are much more at peace with themselves and ,except for the ones trying to cram their religious views on others,more at peace with life!

I like kuhn pauls last post!

Whatever floats your bot,as long as it isn't hurting others! :D
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby Aardvark » February 15, 2009, 8:49 am

It gave me a lauph :lol:
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby sgt » February 21, 2009, 7:41 am

Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled
with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum:
why would a perfect God create a universe at all?

-Sister Miriam Godwinson,
"But for the Grace of God"
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby mortiboy » February 21, 2009, 8:13 am

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Almost certainly does not exist

Postby Michael C » March 10, 2009, 2:12 pm

To say a god or gods do not exist is a rather strong statement without any evidence. To say there is almost certainly no god or gods would have been more appropriate. It is equally fallacious for someone to say there is a god or gods, because there is absolutely no evidence of god or gods. For those that say ‘creation’ is evidence of a god or gods is using a fallacious circular argument, again with no evidence and must consider the next logical circular argument of who created the god or gods and in turn who created them, ending in nothing but a long fallacious circular argument. To simply say that their god or gods have always been there is again without evidence, but it would be far more reasonable to say that the matter that exists has always been there and there is, in fact, evidence of this matter.

Myths and mythologies, god and gods have been a simple creation of the human mind to explain that humans did not understand to alleviate the human’s greatest fear: fear of the unknown. Throughout written history, there are records of myths, mythologies, gods and a god; all of which have one thing in common= no evidence whatsoever. To cling onto or believe in a myth, mythologies, a god, or gods in the face of contradictory evidence or in the face of a total lack of evidence is delusional; these are the people that have problems, clinical problems that are treatable with therapy and/or medication. Someone that claims that there is a problem with someone else saying to another that they have problems because he does not accept a god or gods and the related myths must look himself in the mirror and honestly consider that there is a complete lack of evidence of a god or gods and reconcile that to himself. If that does not work, try examining why you have problems for not accepting Zeus (or any other god).

As for a question that was brought up on how one would change and change their actions if they knew for sure there was no god, that is as superfluous as asking the same about Thor, Odin, Zeus, Ra, Krishna, the great JuJu of the Mountain, the Great Pumpkin or any of the thousands of gods of the past and what would you change or how your actions would change if you knew 'for sure' they did not exist. You do not know ‘for sure’ that they do not exist and if you do know ‘for sure’, present the evidence!

It is far more satisfying and interesting looking at why things happen by investigating them and seeing with evidence. It is intellectually fraudulent to simply attribute everything unknown happens because of some god; that is what happened during the Dark Ages and set Europe behind close to a thousand years from where they should be at present. Look at the Muslim world; they took over leading the world in science and mathematics until - everything started becoming related to Allah (fundamentalism). Imagine how much more advanced we would be and the exponential rate we would advance if the human race spent its mental energy in investigating how and why things happen in the real world rather than dismissing the unknown because of a god or gods and pondering on why they should believe in a mythical god/gods, which have absolutely no evidence, exist(s).

It is sad to see that in the dawn of the 21st century that the human race still believes in fairy tales, accepting them with absolutely no evidence and on the other hand not accepting what we know about the natural world that has been shown with mountains of evidence. It is refreshing to see a healthy contempt for organised religion on this forum, which historically and currently is among the most damaging things that humans have brought about on themselves (e.g. currently Islamic fundamentalist terrorists & Christian fundamentalist Global War of Terror).
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby laphanphon » April 5, 2009, 10:07 pm

a picture is worth a thousand words....................................in the middle of hell.........ok, nice pool, but the menu isn't up to prior visit, and there really isn't anyting else around. out and about for over a month, not saying i didn't get my pizza co fix, ice cream, bakery, but in one of them moods. head out to see if anything changed, can always fall back on cooked fish and kuung at lotus, w/side dishes. well, they F'd the steamed fish up, rare, so had vendor do her best to slavage, the kuung, gone, but wasn't really in the mood for or the other noodle/soup/stir fry offerings. and...........i did drive by a McDee on the way ot shopping center ](*,)
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby Pakawala » April 5, 2009, 10:15 pm

The OP asks, "Does God exist?"

In response I must say, 'Yes, he does, to me."
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby polehawk » April 5, 2009, 10:29 pm

Ahem, I prefer the Jif Chunky, please. :D

God is good. [-o<
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby uncle tom » April 6, 2009, 12:45 am

Evidence of God's existence can be found at any Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Millions of alcoholics have achieved sobriety by choosing their own conception of God.
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby westerby » April 6, 2009, 1:55 am

uncle tom wrote:Evidence of God's existence can be found at any Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Millions of alcoholics have achieved sobriety by choosing their own conception of God.


Nice one, Tom. I love it when somebody comes along and offers up a totally different perspective.
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby Laan Yaa Mo » April 6, 2009, 2:55 am

Do not have blind faith in anything Khun Westerby says on this subject.

His pink poodle is an almighty illusion; therefore, there can be no God.
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby BKKSTAN » April 6, 2009, 10:21 am

uncle tom wrote:Evidence of God's existence can be found at any Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Millions of alcoholics have achieved sobriety by choosing their own conception of God.
God meaning higher power than themselves!some have a doorknob and some simply use the the group as a power greater than themselves that can help restore them to sanity!
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Re: Does God exist?

Postby Brian Davis » April 7, 2009, 3:42 pm

Does God exist? I haven't the faintest.

The arguments for/against have me even more confused. Didn't someone say it was a good idea to believe, then you had both possibilities covered? Like, if there is someone there, you can at least argue your case for a move 'upstairs', if not, what the hell, you've lost nothing.

Personally, I've stocked up on oven gloves. 8-[
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