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Postby arjay » January 12, 2007, 10:34 am

From the Bangkok Post:

AoT backs rebirth of Don Muang

The board of Airports of Thailand Plc yesterday approved the use of Don Muang for domestic flights with no international connections and set March 15 as the possible date for the relaunch of services at the old airport.


I just wonder how they can pre-determine that a domestic flight flying into Bangkok has no international connections!! :roll: Will they be asking all the passengers when they book, and re-routing the aircraft to Suvanbhumi if one of them wants to connect to an international flight??? :roll: :lol: I think not!
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Re: Don Muang airport - rebirth

Postby Doc » January 12, 2007, 10:57 am

arjay wrote:I just wonder how they can pre-determine that a domestic flight flying into Bangkok has no international connections!! :roll: Will they be asking all the passengers when they book, and re-routing the aircraft to Suvanbhumi if one of them wants to connect to an international flight??? :roll: :lol: I think not!


I believe what they are refering to is a flight that starts out as a domestic, but then goes international.

Poorly worded to say the least...
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Postby dill » January 12, 2007, 4:31 pm

will that mean my thai flight from udon will be arriving at don muang and then i have to get a taxi to the new airport to get my thai flight to melbourne(australia)?
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Postby arjay » January 12, 2007, 4:48 pm

Doc wrote:I believe what they are refering to is a flight that starts out as a domestic, but then goes international.

I don't know of any flights that do that!? :? They are either Domestic or International all the way through.
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Postby JimboPSM » January 12, 2007, 8:22 pm

I'm wondering if it may be to do with the scheduling logistics of the actual aircraft being used.

Not much use having an aircraft at Don Muang if its next flight is out of Suvarnabhumi.

It seems a very costly thing to me for any airline to have to staff administration, check-in, ground handling, maintenance and flight crews at both airports - and guess who will end up paying for it? :(
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Postby laphanphon » January 13, 2007, 3:59 pm

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/01/13/business/business_30024011.php

DON MUANG AIRPORT
THAI going back to the future

National carrier to move all but three of its domestic routes from Suvarnabhumi to old airport to save on operating costs

Thai Airways International is moving all of its domestic routes, except those involving Phuket, Chiang Mai and Khon Kaen, to Don Muang airport once the Cabinet approves its reopening.

The move aims to save on operating costs, which are higher at the new Suvarnabhumi Airport. The flag carrier recently said the move to Suvarnabhumi had added Bt3.7 billion to its annual operating costs.

THAI president Apinan Sumanaseni said yesterday that only flights on three routes would be operated at Suvarnabhumi as they carry a large number of foreign passengers who are taking connecting flights to overseas destinations.

On Thursday, Airports of Thailand's (AOT) board approved in principle the reopening of the old airport following an outcry from low-cost airlines over the higher operating fees.

Budget airlines have complained about the higher costs of using the new international airport, which took over domestic and international flights when it opened on September 28.

Yesterday, AOT informed the Stock Exchange of Thailand that its board had approved reopening the capital's old airport for domestic flights, a move that would reduce operating costs for budget airlines.

Deputy Transport Minister Sansern Wongcha-um said the reopening of Don Muang would relieve AOT from the future investment of Bt1.4 billion for the construction of a low-cost airline terminal.

However, he is unsure whether the move will be permanent. The issue will be forwarded to the Cabinet for approval, possibly next week.

"This should help AOT delay the new investment for four or five years," Sansern said yesterday, adding that the authorities are also addressing the reported cracks on Suvarnabhumi's taxi ways.

AOT said in the statement that if the Cabinet approved the plan, airlines flying non-transit domestic routes would have the option of moving back to Don Muang.

Low-cost carriers including Nok Air and One Two Go have shown interest in moving their operations to Don Muang airport. However, AirAsia wants to move both domestic and international routes back to the old airport.

Apinan said few passengers would be troubled by THAI's intended move. The airline will provide a shuttle-bus service serving the two airports.

He added that THAI would finalise a domestic flight timetable and a comparison of operating costs between the two airports within two weeks.

"Operating costs at the former airport would be cheaper than Suvarnnabhumi Airport. Moreover, Don Muang will be less of a problem for matters such as landing fees, parking fees and ground services, as well as leading to shorter delays. Meanwhile, passengers will also save on travel time and transportation expenditure," said Apinan.

The airline chief also said THAI was proceeding with a plan to set up a new airline, details of which are expected to be completed in six months. The new carrier will operate only domestic routes, using Don Muang airport.

However, investment costs and a formal name have not yet been decided.

"THAI will take a 100-per-cent share in the new airline," Apinan added.

The carrier is will be a full-service airline positioned between low-cost operators and THAI.

THAI will transfer aircraft and facilities to the new airline.



wow, showcase airport of asia, what a joke. yep, that's just what i want to do, after flying 8-24 hrs, depending where from, arriving, then transferring to another airport, by taxi in traffic.
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Postby banpaeng » January 13, 2007, 4:54 pm

Lets see if I can add this up correctly. I am leaving Udon to connect to an international flight.

1. Be at airport 2 hours early.
2. 1 Hour flight from Udon to Bkk
3. 2 hours taxi ride (have to figure traffic) from one air port to another.
4. Be at international airport 3 hours early for an international flight.

If I figure correctly, I will have been in transit 8 hours and I haven't left Thailand yet. This is wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AOT needs to lower fees if that is the case with the new airport for domestic flights. Isn't it funny that AOT controls Don Maung also!!!!

Rip off city is a name that comes to mind.

Between this and the erosion of foriegn investment that is be limited equals no TOURIST AND NO BUSINESSMEN. Gee what is left. Bad idea.

Oh well TIT
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Postby valentine » January 13, 2007, 5:11 pm

Of course you could always go Udon- Singapore, a quick 15minute change of terminals and your on your way.
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Postby dill » January 13, 2007, 5:16 pm

i have only got 5 hours between my domestic flight to my international flight,i hope my bags arrive on time an the traffic is not to bussy.
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Postby AznBigG » January 13, 2007, 5:44 pm

banpaeng wrote:Lets see if I can add this up correctly. I am leaving Udon to connect to an international flight.

1. Be at airport 2 hours early.
2. 1 Hour flight from Udon to Bkk
3. 2 hours taxi ride (have to figure traffic) from one air port to another.
4. Be at international airport 3 hours early for an international flight.

If I figure correctly, I will have been in transit 8 hours and I haven't left Thailand yet. This is wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AOT needs to lower fees if that is the case with the new airport for domestic flights. Isn't it funny that AOT controls Don Maung also!!!!

Rip off city is a name that comes to mind.

Between this and the erosion of foriegn investment that is be limited equals no TOURIST AND NO BUSINESSMEN. Gee what is left. Bad idea.

Oh well TIT


You're right about the inconvenience of connecting flights. For me, I'll be inbound in afternoon, but will miss my connection traveling by taxi to DM, to catch domestic to UTH. So I will have to overnight in BKK.

I'm sure for those that are connecting to UTH and other cities in Thailand, this procedure will be a big and unpopular problem.

It's all called bad planning. aka ... politics

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Postby AznBigG » January 13, 2007, 5:51 pm

valentine wrote:Of course you could always go Udon- Singapore, a quick 15minute change of terminals and your on your way.


UTH-SIG-LAX-HNL, HNL-LAX-SIG-UTH. No directs from SIG-HNL. Talking about backtracking and costly. For me, there is no alternative but do as they wish when they implement separate terminals .... :?
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Postby banpaeng » January 13, 2007, 8:07 pm

Flights are usually more expensive (not all the time) out of the US to Singapore. Also if you are not able to connect then taxi and hotel will be a lot more.
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Postby muscle » January 28, 2007, 11:40 pm

VTT to Hanoi on Lao Air. Hanoi to Narita on JAL. If you are heading to the US, that may be easier. Not sure of the connections from Hanoi to Europe though. I wonder how long it will be before Don reopeans for international traffic because of a safety boycott by the airline pilots.
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Postby Gozzo » January 30, 2007, 1:48 pm

Hi guys. I'm in Sydney Australia and flying to LOS on the 7th of feb so I have been watching all the news on the new airport.

It is 4.40pm here at the moment and I am surprised that no news of the diversion of flights from Suvarnabhumi airport to Don Muang seems to have been announced.

I first got news of this over 10 hours ago on the TV news. I haven't got the full report on what has been decided yet but will know more in 30 mins.

It seems that Suvarnabhumi is close for repairs. :shock: #-o

A shame really coz I was looking forward to seeing the new airport in all its glory. :wink:
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Postby Paul » January 31, 2007, 6:22 pm

Apparently even if the partial move does go ahead it will be 4 to 6 weeks before it can be implemented.

Besides - and this was toooooooo funny:

They cannot re-open Don Muang yet as the Western Runway is having repairs done to it - according to yesterdays press
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