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Postby parrot » February 6, 2012, 12:11 am

I wonder if the 'falangs' in the US whine about dual-pricing.
SEATTLE — This is the University of Washington’s new math: 18 percent of its freshmen come from abroad, most from China. Each pays tuition of $28,059, about three times as much as students from Washington State. And that, according to the dean of admissions, is how low-income Washingtonians — more than a quarter of the class — get a free ride.

There's much more to the story and implications of a money-making venture for cash-hungry states at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/educa ... wanted=all

Now, about that 100 baht 'falang' fee at Thai parks! (Disclosure: I've yet to pay a falang fee......the fee has either been waived when I show my Thai driver's license, or I've walked if I felt the fee was excessive).
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Postby fdimike » February 6, 2012, 5:26 am

There's nothing unusual about non-resident students paying more for school tution in the US. Even when I attended college many years ago non-resident students paid a higher tution fee. I think the point of dual pricing refers more to entertainment venues but even there you will find special prices for Florida residents at Disney World and other similar establishments. What is different however, is going to a state/national park and being charged an exorbitant fee (3-4 times the Thai price) for entrance or going to a local merchant and being charged a higher price to buy the same widget a Thai can buyer for much less.
Here's a prime example of what I speaking about. I was cycling along the Thai Cambodian border and wanted to visit an historic temple ( Phanong Rung) on a mountain in the vicinity of Nang Rong. I cycled (bicycle) to the the top of the mountin only to be told by a rude attendant that in addition to the entrance fee of 500B (Thai fee 100B) I would have to pay another 200B for my bicycle. I promptly told the female attendant that I would not fill her pocket with spoare change and left the park. On returning to my hotel in Nanh Rong I mentioned the incident to the owner who wanted all the details as he was on the Board of Directors for the park. He told me the entrance fee for foreigners was 200B which I would have gladly paid and there was no charge for my bicycle. He was visibly embarassed by what I told him saying it would not happen again.
Sometimes showing your Thai drivers license does work but on many occasions it will not. I'll pay the foreigner entrance fee as long as I don't feel it's exorbitant. I will not knowingly pay a higher price for goods from a local merchant which is why I do most of my shopping at the large chain stores here in Udon where everyone pays the same price (unless you're a contractor or have some special discount card)
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Postby Bertie_Wooster » February 6, 2012, 9:13 am

Whenever dual pricing comes up, someone invariably brings up tuition charged by USA universities to foreign students. Although factually accurate it misses the point about the complaints related to dual pricing. fdimike is correct that there is nothing unusual about non-residents paying higher school fees. The key word here is "non-resident" which can be either out of state as in the case of universities, or out of the city in the case of the San Francisco Zoo. If you are a resident you flash your id, usually a driver's license and you get the resident price. Very clear and reasonable.
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Postby trubrit » February 6, 2012, 9:37 am

I think it is reasonable for overseas students to be charged more than residents . After all most uni's get a certain amount of funding from local taxes, to which those from abroad do not normally contribute. What concerns me however is when I read that the most popular ones are making more places available to them at the expense of local applicants presumably, to raise more funds. :roll:
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Postby thrilled » February 8, 2012, 4:37 am

Out of state always pays more money,any university ya go to.I imagine if an american goes to school in another country it's also more money."FYI" it's spelled farang ,good day
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Postby fdimike » February 8, 2012, 6:24 am

Thrilled

The same applies to foreigners who want to attend a private high school or university here in Thailand.
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Postby Ricohoc » February 8, 2012, 7:24 am

And the same applies to students in Arizona who want to attend college in Texas or to students in Missouri who want to attend college in Maine.

Out-of-state fees are intended to keep seats open for students within the state who LIVE THERE.
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Postby Aardvark » February 8, 2012, 1:28 pm

thrilled wrote:Out of state always pays more money,any university ya go to.I imagine if an american goes to school in another country it's also more money."FYI" it's spelled farang ,good day

And the Locals Pronounce it ..... :roll:
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Postby old-timer » February 8, 2012, 1:43 pm

You are all miles of the mark here with regard to the price structure here in Thailand for us farlangs compared to the locals. The prices are actually worked out on a pro-rata basis. And the reason farlangs are charged more to enter places of interest is because we take in whats there, learn and try and understand what ist's all about, whereas a Thai person is more interested in opening their picnic box or finding a som-tum seller, they are not really interested in anything about the place and they only go because we want to, so there's no reason for them to pay much.
However, not the same can be said for a visit to a Wat, there your Thai companion(s) will willingly give there last baht to the establishment together with the shirt off your back. Farlangs are rarley charged to enter a Wat because we find them all the same and not very interesting, and a pain in the backside when it comes to dragging the Mrs out of there when it's time to go home.

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Postby parrot » February 8, 2012, 9:34 pm

This expat says 'falang', that expat says 'farang' but all Thais say "ฝรั่ง"
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Postby harmonyudon » February 8, 2012, 10:35 pm

Go the museum in bahn-chiang.
Foreigners 3x more entrance fee...if I remember well...could be more.

Perhaps they think we'll make the museum faster dirty.... :-" :-" :-" :-"
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Postby Prenders88 » February 8, 2012, 11:04 pm

Hotel's in Thailand normally charge Thai's less on the rack rate than a "Farang".
They get away with it here, try that in the UK and the USA the hotel owner would be in deep sh*t.
Get the long haired translator to walk in and book the room, then walk in after she has the key.
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Postby fdimike » February 9, 2012, 7:45 am

Harmony

Not all museums here in Thailand have different pricing. I've been to many which have just 1 price. The one that comes to mind is the very nice modern dinoseur museum in Kalasin which has no entrance fee.
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Postby trubrit » February 9, 2012, 9:29 am

Prenders88 wrote:Hotel's in Thailand normally charge Thai's less on the rack rate than a "Farang".
They get away with it here, try that in the UK and the USA the hotel owner would be in deep sh*t.
Get the long haired translator to walk in and book the room, then walk in after she has the key.

Strange that. I have often found that special discounts, especially those advertised on line are often reserved for Farang only . Some even saying"Not applicable to Thai residents" On one occasion my wife trying to book one was refused the special offer because she used her name not mine .So it appears to work both ways .
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Postby stargate » February 9, 2012, 9:44 am

can confirm prenders88 post about hotel offers for thai residents only but i saw these in the bkk post and not online.
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