EVA Air NO SHOW

Surely there is nothing to stop one buying a single ticket from Bangkok to London, and then a separate ticket, a single (or even a return to BKK and back to LHR) from London back to Bangkok for a later (return) date.

No problem with having to show a visa if the return ticket from Uk to Thailand was a single surely, if you have a valid visa and re-entry permit. Even if you were taking your partner, you could show that you had a return ticket to Thailand for her, when checking in on your first outward leg.

When I did some checking of prices on the above basis, it still worked out cheaper than buying a return from BKK to London!

Thank you for that Flatlander .

This is a link for UK passengers re their rights—etc,

http://www.claimsfinancial.co.uk/consum ... 02976.aspx

I have not lived in the UK since the 60s, although in the last 10 years I visit annually. One of the most surprising things for me with this exercise, was to find they don’t have a consumer’s institute one can just complain to as such.—I mean one place where a consumer can just write to --- I understand now why the BBC. TV program “Watchdog” is so popular there, Most countries have the just the one stop complaints. It seems to be the UK, has dozens all doing niche work..

They have the Acts passed
• Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977
• Sale of Goods Act 1979
• Consumer Protection Act 1987
• Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999
• Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000
• Electronic Commerce Regulations 2002
• Enterprise Act 2002
• General Product Safety Regulations 2005
• Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008
•
---but with so many different dept to go to. And a lot of the consumer protection centers on Gov dept making sure that there is free competition…correct pricing etc
They have different dept for banking compliant or a defective article compliant, and I found now a separate depts. to cover travel complaints---one for Rail one for shipping etc The Air travel complaints is covered by a dept called the AUC http://www.auc.org.uk/

Quite a " yes minister".

Arjay….I had never considered buying separate tickets to be honest, I will look at pricing them, we should point out to people without a current Visa stamp in there passport, that an airline can refuse to take you on a single ticket.

I have done some more checking and pricing up on booking separate legs/flights, and must admit that it is marginal. With some airlines it didn't work at all, with some it was marginal. It started to work better, if one purchased a single back to the UK (original home country), and then booked a return back to Thailand (i.e. to Thailand and then back to the Uk again).

The overall situation varies according to airlines and countries.

Jai wrote: we should point out to people without a current Visa stamp in there passport, that an airline can refuse to take you on a single ticket.

I always fly back on the second piece of a BKK-LHR-BKK ticket - so, in effect, a 'single' when i am returning to BKK. EVA always check my passport for the visa stamp. I am reasonably sure that they would not let me on the plane without it.

Im supprised to hear about a disapointing experience with EVA air, iveflow with them twice, ounce in pemium economy which is a bit of a waste of money and their business class which i thought was fantastic for the price.

Thai air= OLD and when i mean old i mean OLD aircaft

Eva air= brand new 777's, the service is on par with every other airline, thai airways service is great, but i wouldnt pay extra for it.

the last time i flew thai, i was coming back for BKK, the speaker was broken so when the captain/steward spoke it blew out a high pitched noise which made everyone cover their ears. Then when we landed one of the overhead compartments banged open and somebodys bag smashed onto the floor.

But everyone forgives thai airways, any other airline who had planes as old as theres would get slated, thai just seem to have something special.

saying that, my next trip im probably going to fly Thai ONLY because you get there about 6/7am which is fanstic for any connnecting flight i want to get.

oh and while im here, can anyone ask someone whos flying business class with thai and is spending £3000????

sorry, the MAXIMUM i would pay is £1900. Eva air charge about 1500/1600 and qatar (fantastic business class) charges about 1800

When I was single and had a bit more disposable income - and travelled alone - I used to love EVA's Economy Deluxe, or Evergreen Class, or Elite Class - there seem to be many names for this in-between class.

Closer to Economy rates than Business rates, and the legroom was wonderful, as was the service, the condition of the aircraft, the food, and the lovely, accommodating staff. Really.

Now travelling with 4 to the US, I looked for the cheapest fares, forgetting you pretty much get what you pay for, or thinking it wouldn't really matter that much. Actually looking for the cheapest fares, OK.

Enter China Eastern Airlines. THB 30,000 BKK - Shanghai - JFK - Shanghai - BKK. R/t for under $1000. Hoo-rah. Kids go for 25K.

Well, you know those movies where the dude wakes up in like, Nazi Germany, or in this case, say, during the Cultural Revolution. Shianghai Pudong is a lot like that. They have no clue what "in transit" should mean, or be. I've never seen anyone actually ask my wife or daughter to come closer so they could compare their face more closely with the passport picture. And then be excited to find an "h" in the name in the passport that wasn't on the ticket. On & on.

And the Li Yen pickled radishes and Original Onion Cookies with Best Taste are to die for, literally. Disgraceful snack tray full of 3 Baht items on the 4.5-hour flight BKK - Shanghai. All I can say is: better living through chemistry.

And thank god my family had a row to ourselves, so that I could get my knees out of my face.

And I don't think I've ever flown any airline that was late on every leg of the journey. Watch those connections, people; AmTrak doesn't wait for you at Penn Station.

And and and. But I digress. This is the Eva Air No Show topic.

Let's just say I will be thrilled to fly EVA, or THAI, or Qatar, or Emirates, or SING, or any airline that doesn't have China in the name - or in the itinerary! And what's a few thousand extra baht really when you're on a 36-hour odyssey between BKK and Smalltown, USA, with 2 children in tow? "Daddy, I can't eat these things!"

EVA never let me down, BTW. Long live Taiwan.

Thanuhak, interesting anecdotes on your trip with China Eastern airlines.

Yes, I've always found EVA very good, and have just booked with them - out Economy class and back Elite class - at a cost of 40K baht.

They had a particularly good promotion on the BKK -LHR route presumably to fill those Economy seats for the return leg.

Current promotion: circa 28000 baht Economy return BKK -LHR.

BobHelm wrote:On a similar theme with the OP on EVA...
I was due to fly back on the 14th. I have a 3 month ticket & when I obtained had no idea when I would actually be able to fly back. As it turns out the 14th. is too early so I phoned EVA to change.
No problem.....but had no available seats from 28th. July to 4th. August. So I am on stand by for which flight they can get me on. The London office said 'This is the busy season'....well yes, holiday season in UK for sure, but to Thailand???
So passengers in June are told 'No demand', passengers in July 'Too much demand'....wonder which is correct
The office would have been happy to upgrade me - if I paid as much for the upgrade as I paid for 1 way anyway... Told them I would kindly reject that offer...

Yes June is low season and therefore low demand. July is high season (always has been - school holidays), so high demand.

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

BobHelm wrote:

Jai wrote: we should point out to people without a current Visa stamp in there passport, that an airline can refuse to take you on a single ticket.

I always fly back on the second piece of a BKK-LHR-BKK ticket - so, in effect, a 'single' when i am returning to BKK. EVA always check my passport for the visa stamp. I am reasonably sure that they would not let me on the plane without it.

Sorry Bob - I'm not picking on you. But the return part of a BKK-LHR-BKK ticket is not a single. It is the inbound leg of a return ticket.

a single ticket is just a one-way deal.

It is a 'single' to the airline in as much as it does not provide proof of further travel after Thailand & so, without the evidence of a visa to enter that country, would result in the airline with the problem of removing the passenger elsewhere if entry was refused.

Yes you are correct Nick July is a peak time for holidays in the UK. it is not, however, a peak time for travellers from the UK to Thailand - that is December.

Here's an interesting one for you.

I took my good lady back to the UK a couple of years back, for a visit on a "UK visit visa". She isn't Thai, but comes from another "Asean" group country.

At the end of our stay in the UK when checking-in at Heathrow for our return flight to Thailand, she was challenged by the check-in guy that she didn't have a Thai visa (or re-entry permit) in her passport, therefore he wasn't sure she would be allowed to enter Thailand. (I had a re-entry permit, though like her would have been given a 30 day stamp on arrival anyway!). I pointed out to him that she came from another of the Asean group of countries and that they can enter each others countries with an automatic 30 day stay, no visa required.

He insisted he had to go and check, which he did,...... ............ and then came back and checked us in OK. I can remember thinking at the time, had they denied her boarding, it could have been quite amusing (or not!!). .... Not allowed to return to the UK, nor fly back to Thailand. There could have been a sequel to the Steven Spielberg film: "The Terminal"!!

BobHelm wrote:It is a 'single' to the airline in as much as it does not provide proof of further travel after Thailand & so, without the evidence of a visa to enter that country, would result in the airline with the problem of removing the passenger elsewhere if entry was refused.

Not really. It is the inbound part of a return ticket, as I said before. The airline will know that the ticket originated from Thailand in the first place and this would affect the status of the passenger.

Completely different from someone arriving on a SINGLE, one way ticket. Originating in ANOTHER COUNTRY.

Where are you getting your information from Bob, experience of travelling?

Nick@AUA wrote:Where are you getting your information from Bob, experience of travelling?

Yes Nick - exactly the point. Every time a return to Thailand via EVA Air on the return part of a ticket bought in Thailand they want to check my visa. When I queried the staff about this the last time they replied as per the jist of my post above - that it was necessary for them to ensure that I had a valid visa for Thailand as I was not showing onward travel from there.

If you have a different pratical experience of this then I will be interested to know of it.