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Postby lee » January 4, 2008, 11:46 am

Yes the sudden fall in the pound value is worrying; I hope it’s only temporary.

I have a question for you finance buffs, why am I getting 66 baht to the pound when I withdraw from my UK bank account, but the current xe.com shows an international rate of 58.9 baht to the pound?
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Postby arjay » January 4, 2008, 12:07 pm

Lee, there are currently two rates - an offshore rate and an onshore rate.

When you view the BBC website - it will show the lower offshore rate - currently about 59, and when you view Bangkok Bank website it will show the rate here in LOS - currently about 66.

That's why it's definitely best to send any money from the Uk (offshore) in sterling and have it exchanged when it gets here. :D
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Postby lee » January 4, 2008, 12:13 pm

Cheers arjay :D
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Postby wokkawombat » January 4, 2008, 6:17 pm

I also believe the XE rate is set between the buying and selling rate therefore if the selling rate for the GBP is 70 baht and the buying rate for GBP is 68 baht the XE rate will be 69 baht or am I wrong again?. :oops:

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Postby arjay » January 4, 2008, 7:54 pm

John, yes there is a small difference/spread between the buying and selling prices, but that is separate and distinct from (i.e. not the same as), the onshore and offshore rates, which have a much bigger difference. :D
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Postby JimboPSM » January 4, 2008, 8:42 pm

John, just to add a bit to what "arjay" said:

According to XE.Com, they claim to use "mid-market" rates - details can be found here:

In my own charts I use data which takes the average of the closing TT buy and sell rates in Thailand each trading day.

IMHO it is always better to check the Forex rates from the domestic Thai banks and, as has been often said on the forum, to exchange funds in Thailand (not only do you get the onshore rate, you get a much better deal as forex spreads are much tighter in Thailand - generally western banks use unethically large spreads on their forex deals to make colossal profits at the expense of their customers) :(

Pretty well all the Thai domestic banks quote their latest forex exchange rates on the internet.
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Postby farang » January 4, 2008, 10:10 pm

bangkok bank Currency Exchange Rates

Click the Latest Rates button to refresh rates

http://www.bangkokbank.com/Bangkok+Bank ... +Rates.htm
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Postby dill » January 5, 2008, 8:09 am

just checked fx and find out now you only get 28.86 to the australian dollar ,whereas 3 months ago i was getting around the 31 give and take .
big change :cry:
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Postby wokkawombat » January 5, 2008, 9:30 am

I only use the rates published by onshore Thai banks in my calculations.

I understand only too well onshore and offshore rates for Baht. I was quite happy using my Visa card for purchases in Thailand, (big C, airlines etc) untill I saw they were using the off shore rates for conversion from Baht to USD to AUD.

The midmarket rates on XE was what I was referring to.

Dill, the current rate for AUD notes on shore at SCB 18:51 04/01/2008 is 28.92375 Baht.


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Postby JimboPSM » January 5, 2008, 10:42 am

wokkawombat wrote:............. I was quite happy using my Visa card for purchases in Thailand, (big C, airlines etc) untill I saw they were using the off shore rates for conversion from Baht to USD to AUD.

I read the English translations of the BoT rules months ago, from memory (which can be faulty) I was pretty sure that credit cards were exempt from the URR rules and should be translated at the onshore rate.

It seems to me that some financial institutions have seen the two tier rate as an easy way to profit at the expense of their customers (nothing new here).

If you feel sufficiently aggrieved, it may be worth a complaint to your home country central bank (as the regulator of banks and financial institutions), trying to lodge a complaint with the BoT may be a little harder.
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Postby jackspratt » January 5, 2008, 11:51 am

When I use my Oz credit card here (Westpac Visa) it is always converted at my bank into A$ at the Thai onshore rate.

But you need to be careful, because at some terminals in Thailand they will do the conversion here, and present the slip for signature already in A$, having been converted at the less favourable offshore rate.
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Postby aznyron » January 6, 2008, 9:31 pm

good topic last month I got a cash advance on my credit card to pay a bill in thailand
I got the on shore rate which was better than I would have gotten from Siam bank
the only problem is the % rate is higher for cash
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