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Falang's wife owning Land

Postby pompui » March 7, 2010, 6:38 pm

douglas wrote:Hi,

What supprised me was the wife's name stayed the same, she had to go to another office in town to get her name changed. The same office that issues the ID cards. but it is up to you if you want to do this.
Anyway good luck on your marriage and have a good day.
Cheers Doug.


I was always under the impression that if the Thai wife changes her name to your surname then she loses the right to own land etc.My wife has therefore kept her surname just a change to mrs on the id card etc.
Also at the weddings, people return your invite envelopes with money and it is all logged, so if any of the women get married and you are invited to their bash,then you give the same as they gave you, whether it be 1000 or 100 baht,no double pricing for farangs here 8)
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby Galee » March 7, 2010, 8:21 pm

pompui wrote:I was always under the impression that if the Thai wife changes her name to your surname then she loses the right to own land etc.My wife has therefore kept her surname just a change to mrs on the id card etc.


Not so pompui. My wife was able to buy land with my surname.
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Postby beer monkey » March 8, 2010, 4:29 am

Galee wrote:
pompui wrote:I was always under the impression that if the Thai wife changes her name to your surname then she loses the right to own land etc.My wife has therefore kept her surname just a change to mrs on the id card etc.


Not so pompui. My wife was able to buy land with my surname.



Mine too pompers....didn't make any differance with my surname on her ID. :badteeth:
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Postby pompui » March 8, 2010, 5:16 am

BM,seems the TW has been winding me somefin proper about not being able to buy land/house with a farang surname,Nevermind, she is happy with her id card with her surname,20 letters long :D
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby papaguido » March 8, 2010, 6:30 am

pompui wrote:BM,seems the TW has been winding me somefin proper about not being able to buy land/house with a farang surname,Nevermind, she is happy with her id card with her surname,20 letters long :D


It's a thing of the past. Not sure when the law changed, but there still are people who think that.
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby pompui » March 8, 2010, 7:17 am

papaguido wrote:
pompui wrote:BM,seems the TW has been winding me somefin proper about not being able to buy land/house with a farang surname,Nevermind, she is happy with her id card with her surname,20 letters long :D


It's a thing of the past. Not sure when the law changed, but there still are people who think that.


Thanks for that,I will update the TW accordingly :badteeth:
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby maaka » March 8, 2010, 8:00 am

in regards the misses not being able to buy land after she marries and takes your name..as I am in the middle of trying to come up with abit of terra firma for myself, and I was searching the web for the thai legal stuff, land law, and came across one of the major law firms saying that the misses couldnt buy once married, but if other dudes have cracked it, and the law has changed then all well and good..hate to see the misses rights curtailed just because she married farang..
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby jimboLV » March 8, 2010, 8:10 am

We definitely need a definitive answer on this. I read somewhere that it used to be that a Thai married to a farang couldn't buy land, on the theory that if SHE passed away then the dreaded farang would inherit the land, and we can't have that happening, can we? But then the law was changed, and I think there is still a lot of confusion on the matter. I believe that she can buy the land if she certifies that it's her money and the farang has no ownership interest.

We ran into something like this when the wife inquired about a mortgage to build a house (she already owns the land). She was told she couldn't get a mortgage because she was married to a farang! We didn't pursue it as we decided to go in another direction. I'm sure the loan officer who told her that was wrong. Possibly she meant that my retirement income could not qualify for the loan, as It would end if I kicked the bucket. But we'll cross that bridge when we decide what to do. Right now we're evaluating building vs. just renting, but that plot of ground is tempting. :-k
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby maaka » March 8, 2010, 8:23 am

jimboLV have you got some assets back home..my bank back home is willing to give me a loan to purchase it thailand, as long as I use my asset back home as collateral for the loan..I will dig into this wifey thing and see if I can come up with a definite answer for us..
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby maaka » March 8, 2010, 8:35 am

.4 Thai Spouse: According to Thai real estate law, a Thai spouse of a foreigner may be allowed to buy land or property in Thailand in his or her own name. However the married couple may be asked to sign declarations at the Land Department to state that the funds used are the separate property of the Thai spouse. This may have the effect of waiving any claim on the land or property by the non-Thai spouse. This may become problematic in a divorce case as it may be difficult for the non-Thai spouse to prove that the land was marital property. In this case, a skillfully drafted Thailand prenuptial agreement may come in handy to minimize the risk to the non-Thai spouse.
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby jimboLV » March 8, 2010, 8:54 am

maaka wrote:jimboLV have you got some assets back home..my bank back home is willing to give me a loan to purchase it thailand, as long as I use my asset back home as collateral for the loan..I will dig into this wifey thing and see if I can come up with a definite answer for us..


Nope, all my meager assets are here. I'm like the proverbial snake that was so poor he didn't have a pit to hiss in. :-" It's not a problem as we did talk to a real bank here in Udon and were assured that we could get a loan when the time comes, providing we meet the requirements for income, assets, etc. In other words being married to a foreign devil would not negate loan possibilities for the wife. But really haven't pursued it in depth.
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby jackspratt » March 8, 2010, 9:08 am

I suggest people have a look at this - which I understand gives authoritative advice on things such as Thai spouse (of farang) owning land, what happens in the case of death of either, etc etc.

http://www.samuiforsale.com/Land_Thai_spouse.html
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby Garnet » March 8, 2010, 10:38 am

That link makes it pretty clear.

My own wife, Jack, bought two rai of land in her Nong Soong village last year. She had to travel back there from Canada to close the deal, but her non-residency -- as well as her last name (mine) -- didn't seem to be an issue for anyone.

I didn't appreciate the debt this started up for me, especially since I already knew that the property could never be mine. But it's amazing what is done for harmony in the home!
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby kjellsnell » March 8, 2010, 10:40 am

Hello there!
I been a member on this forum for long time but this is the firsth time i write something here and i try two give some answer about the issue if thaiwife can buy land if she take here husbands forreing surename:

My wife (she is a teacher in businesseconomic and work earlier for the gowerment whit workpermitissues) says that the wife can buy land if she has taken farangshurename but.....here husband will be asked where the money come from and he must also garanti the money. You all know the issues about (some bad ones) taking money from husbands account and by land from relatives for double-up price and farang dont no nothing. The gowerments policy about this thing is to protect in two ways:

1. Gowerment check up up where the money come from so farang dont use dirty moneyloundry in Thailand'
2. When they know the money is clean they protect farang from being cheated by wife and relatives.

My wifes sister (uneversityteacher) is married whit an englishman and they buy land in Udonthani for 1 year ago and they have to follow the steps i tell you about so it looks like the gowerment policy follows the step i write down about this issue. If somebody have another opinion i am happy to know more about this. I am myself a socionom from Sweden but in the last ten years i have been working whit developing leadingsystems for big medianetworks, big companys and for the gowerment of sweden and whit my background background i find it intresting to know about the thai system....

Regards.......
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Re: Falang's wife owning Land

Postby oangh » March 8, 2010, 11:39 am

papaguido wrote:
pompui wrote:BM,seems the TW has been winding me somefin proper about not being able to buy land/house with a farang surname,Nevermind, she is happy with her id card with her surname,20 letters long :D


It's a thing of the past. Not sure when the law changed, but there still are people who think that.

It changed about 10 years ago because a new law gave men and women even rights.
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