papafarang wrote:

ronan01 wrote:

papafarang wrote:

Bonanza wrote:I am a liberal, but as I get older I find that I am more intolerant of bigots and other stupid liberals who do not share my point of view. As a liberal I support freedom of speech as long as it doesn't offend any of my principles or beliefs.Er? Ugh! Wot! Oh yeah!

sadly old age brings that on. if you believe in freedom ,then isis have the rights to their caliphate ,their right to sharia. the fact we find their laws repugnant interferes with their right to say what the want. but do we need to defend their rights, how about communists rights, atheists rights .Nazi and anarchists. freedom of speech , you can't defend everyone's right to freedom. now there's an oxymoron for you

Doing a bit of stalking?

Confusing freedom with freedom of speech?

You can have as much freedom as you want as long your freedom does not impinge on the freedom of others.

A supporter of IS is free to espouse the benefits of fundamental islam, but not free to kill people who do not agree with him.

Your thinking is muddled.

what is someone stalking bonanza ? the usual adversarial reply , they have the right to free speech, no one has the right to kill people, where did that come up in a thread about free speech ? you mention the right to kill, only you mentioned that subject, please stay on topic

You need to stay on topic - you deviated onto freedom and rights:

"then isis have the rights to their caliphate ,their right to sharia. the fact we find their laws repugnant interferes with their right to say what the want. but do we need to defend their rights, how about communists rights, atheists rights .Nazi and anarchists. freedom of speech , you can't defend everyone's right to freedom. now there's an oxymoron for you"

does it say "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" as the thread. so less of the deflection, members are not that dunb, even a Nazi have the rights, as much as we don't like it . they have the right too

There is a DVD documentary about the British involvement in the Dhofar war in the 70s, and one of the veterans makes some very salient points about Christianity and Islam (especially as a large proportion of the local people followed the very strict Wahabi sect of Islam). What a pity that the same observations would not be true today. see http://www.operationoman.com

The general law in UK is that you are free to say what you wish, as long as you do not try to incite others to hatred or offensive action. Works for most of the Brits.

There is a DVD documentary about the British involvement in the Dhofar war in the 70s, and one of the veterans makes some very salient points about Christianity and Islam (especially as a large proportion of the local people followed the very strict Wahabi sect of Islam). What a pity that the same observations would not be true today. see http://www.operationoman.com

The general law in UK is that you are free to say what you wish, as long as you do not try to incite others to hatred or offensive action. Works for most of the Brits. It's why satirical magazines such as 'Private Eye' can exist .

A drunken man was going down the street flinging his hands right and left, when one of his arms came across the nose of a passer-by. The passer-by instinctively clenched his fist and sent the intruder sprawling to the ground. He got up, rubbing the place where he was hit, and said, "I would like to know if this is not a land of liberty." "It is," said the other fellow; "but I want you to understand that your liberty ends just where my nose begins."

The right ( freedom) to swing your fist ends where the other mans nose begins.
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

Britain First carries out Christian Patrol in Islamist hotspot Bury Park, Luton

https://youtu.be/fA6XcyXsxXU

Should BF be allowed to exercise freedom of speech?

Yes, good to see the Muslims told the Brits to get out of their Country. Will be happening in Oz if they keep allowing this Immigration to continue ....

Munk Debate on Global Refugee Crisis

The motion before the house was:

Be it resolved, give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...

At the start of the debate, the audience voted 77 per cent pro, 23 per cent con. At the end of the debate, they voted again:

The post debate vote is 55% pro and 45% con. The con side shifted 22% of the vote from the pre-debate results. Con wins.

So Steyn & Farage doubled their vote over the course of the night, which is not a bad result with a tough Trudeaupian crowd.

http://www.steynonline.com/