Gall Stone Discovered...What To Do!

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Re: Gall Stone Discovered...What To Do!

Post by rjj04 » October 4, 2016, 9:51 pm

"According to the American Medical Association, 80 percent of gallstones are made of hardened cholesterol that develops when there is too much cholesterol in the gallbladder. Other causes include high levels of bilirubin and a concentration of bile in the gallbladder." http://www.top10homeremedies.com/home-r ... tones.html



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Re: Gall Stone Discovered...What To Do!

Post by panmotor » October 6, 2016, 6:47 pm

I mentioned on a separate thread that my 4 year old granddaughter had come down with Henoch Schonlein Pupura. After more than a month in hospital, she is out and, apparently recovered although, there are potential long term effects to the kidneys which may crop up later.

However, we were told a few weeks back that she had gallstones as a result of HSP and she probably needs her gall bladder removing. She is presently taking medication and returns for a consultation later this month when they may or may not operate.

Maybe I am overly suspicious from reading this thread but wonder whether this is just another case of finding something to make money on! I would hate her to endure more suffering if it's unnecessary but, apart from getting a 2nd opinion, which we would do, we can only trust what the doctors say and assume they are acting correctly.

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Re: Gall Stone Discovered...What To Do!

Post by semperfiguy » October 6, 2016, 7:19 pm

panmotor wrote:I mentioned on a separate thread that my 4 year old granddaughter had come down with Henoch Schonlein Pupura. After more than a month in hospital, she is out and, apparently recovered although, there are potential long term effects to the kidneys which may crop up later.

However, we were told a few weeks back that she had gallstones as a result of HSP and she probably needs her gall bladder removing. She is presently taking medication and returns for a consultation later this month when they may or may not operate.

Maybe I am overly suspicious from reading this thread but wonder whether this is just another case of finding something to make money on! I would hate her to endure more suffering if it's unnecessary but, apart from getting a 2nd opinion, which we would do, we can only trust what the doctors say and assume they are acting correctly.
Panmotor, don't you dare trust what the doctors say and assume they are acting correctly. You are living in a country where lying for profit is a way of life. You must be prudent and seek a second opinion. When my gallstone was diagnosed nearly 5 years ago, this piranha doctor jumped on me and even called in one of his buddies to try to double-close me into letting them take out my gallbladder. I went home and did my research online and discovered that I had what's called an inactive gallstone. I've probably had it most of my life and it may never flare up. From what I've read, these types of surgeries are performed regularly all over the world without true necessity because they are a "cash cow" procedure. Don't take my word for it, but please don't make any hasty uninformed decisions.
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Post by Jello » October 6, 2016, 10:42 pm

panmotor wrote: Maybe I am overly suspicious from reading this thread but wonder whether this is just another case of finding something to make money on! I would hate her to endure more suffering if it's unnecessary but, apart from getting a 2nd opinion, which we would do, we can only trust what the doctors say and assume they are acting correctly.
Read up and get yourself informed before you go to the appointment. If your uncomfortable with what the Doctor is telling you, get a 2nd opinion.

Plenty of info on the internet, here's some websites to get you started:
http://www.healthline.com/health/gallbl ... val-open#2
http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and- ... reatment#2
http://www.healthline.com/health/gallstones#Causes2

Hope your granddaughter is feeling better.
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Post by Lone Star » October 7, 2016, 8:02 am

Second opinions are always good. Sometimes more than two opinions are good. =D>

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Post by samster » October 20, 2016, 1:23 pm

Just for info. My granddaughter went back to hospital today for a follow up and we were told that the gallstones have gone and, for this at least, she has the all clear. Seems all my suspicions were unfounded and my faith in Thai doctors is restored until the next time......!!

Thanks for your comments guys and, whilst at it, thanks to those who responded on the separate thread when she was diagnosed with HSP. The PMs, including those from individuals who had been through similar, helped considerably and, for me at least, illustrated what the forum should be about. It would be great to have an ex pat community out here who support and help each other (as happens in other parts of the world) but, then again, I have always been something of an idealist!!

Thanks again

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Post by panmotor » October 20, 2016, 1:29 pm

:D Oh and panmotor =samster in case anyone picks up on it. One is generally for personal comments and the other to act as a mouthpiece for my wifes business!! :D

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Re: Gall Stone Discovered...What To Do!

Post by jackson » December 3, 2017, 8:56 am

Hi semperfiguy, I had severe pain in my gut while living in Au. It slowly subsided , went to my exellent doctor and he diagnosed it was a gall stone. Called a gall stone attack for the want of a better description. He told me the norm in au. at the time was if you get a second attack have the gall blader removed. Abour 6 mths later I did have the same fairly accute pain so off to have it out. I had private insuranc so don't know the cost.
I asked the surgeon to save it for me to take a look at it. Turned out to about the size of a garden pea and looked like a small mine . Roundish and spiky. It was dark brown and very hard , so I understand when they say shatter it. In my case I would not like the thought of having to pee out the pieces.
It was done laproscpically with out any issues to be concerned about. From memory out and about the garden next day. So minus a gall blader made me wonder how one gets on without a resivor of bile. Apparently there is sufficient remaining in the tubing ( or something like that) however 10 years later still everything good as. No furthe issues

Personally I cannot imagine it being disolved with diet or anything else, just my opinion though. To me it seems if one gets an "attack" the pain is tolerable , doubtfull if life threatening and time to get to a doc. Again my oppinion only, just from personal experience

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Post by jackson » December 3, 2017, 9:02 am

Just noticed my reply to superfiguy was an old query, sorry about that. Mabe it is good general advice anyway

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Post by semperfiguy » December 3, 2017, 9:38 am

jackson wrote:
December 3, 2017, 9:02 am
Just noticed my reply to superfiguy was an old query, sorry about that. Mabe it is good general advice anyway
The reply is very much appreciated Jackson. Actually, it's been nearly 6 years since my gallstone was first discovered. I'm glad I made the decision not to have surgery because it has never given me the least bit of a problem. If one does his homework he will discover that the majority of stones are inactive ones that may have been there for decades and may never give one a problem his entire life. Others may experience an "attack" and that can be serious and surgery may be recommended. I'm thankful that I didn't listen to the two different surgeons that were ushered into the room for their sales pitch once the stone showed up on an ultrasound. They pounced on me like a cheetah on a small deer and were "smelling the money", but I didn't bite and opted to go home and research for myself on the internet. Forewarned is forearmed....good advice for anyone visiting a doctor in a private hospital in Thailand. If one doesn't believe that they must meet a certain dollar quota of revenue for the hospital in order to keep their jobs, then that person needs to take off his rose-colored glasses and see the light!
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Re: Gall Stone Discovered...What To Do!

Post by AlexO » December 4, 2017, 12:22 pm

Just be a wee bit careful SemperFG. A number of years ago I was suffering from quite bad abdominal pains and my GP was sending me for Barium Meals and prescribing Zantac for nearly a year. One day coming home from work the pain became acute but being male decided to tough it out. Next morning my wife took one look at me and burst into tears, I had turned bright yellow overnight. Off to the hospital and had an ultrasound. Lo and behold they found I had gallstones but some had moved into my liver via the bile duct I assume and it was not functioning. Five hours of emergency surgery and a nice 250 mm (10 inch for our colonial friends) scar later all sorted. Surgeon told me later that the toxin buildup in my blood was pretty severe and I would have been a casket case 24 hours later if not been treated.

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Post by semperfiguy » December 4, 2017, 7:24 pm

AlexO wrote:
December 4, 2017, 12:22 pm
Just be a wee bit careful SemperFG. A number of years ago I was suffering from quite bad abdominal pains and my GP was sending me for Barium Meals and prescribing Zantac for nearly a year. One day coming home from work the pain became acute but being male decided to tough it out. Next morning my wife took one look at me and burst into tears, I had turned bright yellow overnight. Off to the hospital and had an ultrasound. Lo and behold they found I had gallstones but some had moved into my liver via the bile duct I assume and it was not functioning. Five hours of emergency surgery and a nice 250 mm (10 inch for our colonial friends) scar later all sorted. Surgeon told me later that the toxin buildup in my blood was pretty severe and I would have been a casket case 24 hours later if not been treated.

Thanks for the heads up AlexO! If I ever start having pains in that region I will definitely be on my way to see a doctor.
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Re: Gall Stone Discovered...What To Do!

Post by Lone Star » December 4, 2017, 7:48 pm

AlexO wrote:
December 4, 2017, 12:22 pm
Off to the hospital and had an ultrasound. Lo and behold they found I had gallstones but some had moved into my liver via the bile duct I assume and it was not functioning. Five hours of emergency surgery and a nice 250 mm (10 inch for our colonial friends) scar later all sorted. Surgeon told me later that the toxin buildup in my blood was pretty severe and I would have been a casket case 24 hours later if not been treated.
In what hospital did you receive this diagnosis and have your surgery? Thanks.
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Post by AlexO » December 4, 2017, 8:04 pm

Sorry Lone Star if I was not clear. It all happened back in Edinburgh, Scotland. I was just trying to highlight what can happen sometimes with Gallstones.

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