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Re: Happy 4th of July to all the yanks!

Postby wokkawombat » July 4, 2009, 11:11 am

Happy 4th July to my American friends in Udon. =D>
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Re: Happy 4th of July to all the yanks!

Postby laphanphon » July 4, 2009, 11:24 am

as a Yank, i'd like to thank the French, for their fine contribution to USA independence, along with a few others, spanish, dutch, all taking advantage at the time, for a reduced British empire. gov'ts will never learn, you can't fight 2 fronts, let alone multiply 2 fronts. just glad you Brits thought homeland interest were more important. without considerable help, independence would of been lost.

thanks, and very happy, as Saint mentioned, no long term animosity toward each other, and close allies against couple other world threats. though not a big fan of current political decisions and the world situation the past couple decades, i'm glad i grew up when i did, and saw actually people making a difference in gov't decisions, last one, vietnam war, why there, if not for the good, then get out. since then, not much free press, or free expression to influence the right things USA has involved itself in the past few decades, especially present situations around the world, ....this is the debates section,.... but these are just a few of my opinions, which ..............i won't debate, just express.

for those non yanks and yanks as myself, who confess to a bit of ignorance, couple links below about American history, and little world history up to what we should already know, since sadly, the world wars many experienced 1st hand, and the rest is history, we should know.

USA history, though a bit was going on right before that influence a lot before July 4th. as we all realize, them damn wars are expensive, in people and money lost fighting. thankfully during and after the independence, the founding fathers, did the right things, especially getting the Bill of Rights passed and putting checks and balances in place, so eventually, things are almost democratic. simply refining what we learned from Brit and French law. :D

http://www.mikalac.com/cons/chronology.html

USA/WORLD history, up to WWI

http://www.stoessel.ch/hei/hpi/america_ ... nology.htm

not sure of sources or how slanted, but good reading.

and who would of thought, a couple hundred years later, things would be so different.

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Re: Happy 4th of July to all the yanks!

Postby uncle tom » July 4, 2009, 12:19 pm

Remember if you have a fifth on the 4th go forth on the 5th.
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Re: Happy 4th of July to all the yanks!

Postby Astana » July 4, 2009, 1:31 pm

jackspratt wrote:
Farang1 wrote:Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors,and tortured before they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.
Eleven were merchants,
Nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.

So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.

Remember: freedom is never free!

The Fourth of July has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball games.


Nice "story" Farang - but unfortunately a lot of it is untrue, or only half true. You just can't trust anything that is signed off with the word "patriots" :D

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Anyway, good luck to the British colonists who kicked out the redcoats all those years ago. On balance, the result has been pretty positive =D>


If the thread was about 'Happy 4th of July to all yanks, then why did it start with a diatribe that is untrue and absolute tosh, and if someone has a different view and you make personal attacks on them it surely shows a lack of maturity. So don't feel sorry for me but raise your glasses to absent friends.
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Re: Happy 4th of July to all the yanks!

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Re: Happy 4th of July to all the yanks!

Postby Harold » July 5, 2009, 2:09 am

We let the septics win, its what all English kids are tauhgt at school.
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Re: Happy 4th of July to all the yanks!

Postby rick » July 5, 2009, 7:47 am

Harold, were you taught? I have my doubts.
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