House made of steel...some assembly required.

by **Farang1** » August 13, 2009, 6:14 pm

Sorry about that, Arjay, him doing that would be partly my fault.

Peter, if you could PM me the links, I would appreciate it.

by **BobHelm** » August 13, 2009, 6:30 pm

If you Google the product name then the site Peter mentions comes up - more than 1 time. However, as Peter mentioned, the web site would appear not to be working.
This implies to me that either they have closed their web site (or are moving it to a different server) or they have gone out of business.
I couldn't see another web address for the supplier of that specific material, but maybe if you Googled the 'generic name' of the product & limited your search to 'Thailand' an alternative might appear.

by **Farang1** » August 13, 2009, 6:36 pm

OK thanks, Bob. I 'll give it a try

by **Farang1** » August 14, 2009, 12:37 pm

Here are a couple more shots. They did get the insulation under the tile. Probably be finished with the roof in another 3 or 4 days. They are going to frame in the rough opening for the vents in the gables, next. The foreman is going to return in October when I am back and we'll go over some decorative interior framing.

Turned the landscaping project over to my father in law. Him being a bit of a horticulturist, I though it would give him something to do. He has been after me about planting stuff. I gave him the list of trees Parrot gave me earlier in the thread and free license to do what he thinks is best for the house. This should prove interesting.

I did find the insulation PeterBlythe mentioned. It is called warmcell and is a product of UK. Made of 100% recycled paper. Google results page showed someone in bkk that handled it but, couldn't get any info past that. I have the UK's webpage, I'll show the UTH insulation people and see what they have.

by **Farang1** » August 21, 2009, 4:13 am

Another little problem we have come across. This one goes back to the manufacturer of the frame, the one who actually made the frame. They have a machine that forms the steel, punches the holes and cuts everything to size. If they use it to make the whole frame, it comes together perfectly. This problem comes from, they used the machine to do the walls but, came up with their own design for the roof. You can see the results. The roof trusses were sitting on the top plate of the walls and left no room for deflection when the roof tile was loaded on. The supplier in BKK who we have been dealing with has had his engineer on the project from the beginning. The engineer and his crew are the ones that assembled the frame and also put the roof on. They have taken measurements and gone back to BKK to work out a solution. They should be returning about the same time I do in October.

I'll keep you informed with all experiances... the good with the bad.

by **BKKSTAN** » August 21, 2009, 6:13 am

I wonder if the house will squeak on windy days and if it will need lubrication :lol:

Just joking!

Are they going to disassemble the the construction already done? :-s

by **Farang1** » August 21, 2009, 7:09 am

BKKSTAN wrote:Are they going to disassemble the the construction already done?

That, I don't know. They haven't got back to me with what they have come up with, yet.

BKKSTAN wrote:I wonder if the house will squeak on windy days and if it will need lubrication Just joking!

My worry is if it will fall over on a windy day...

If you look close at the trusses, there isn't any gussets at the joints. That causes me some concern. I am by no means an engineer but, I would guess that there would not be so much deflection in the trusses if they had put gusset in there.

by **Farang1** » September 10, 2009, 1:58 am

Well, this is their idea.

They want to add another wall making the walls 7 inches thick. But, only on the 4 that are marked in the floor plan. "Make house stronger." It is the cheapest fix for them. The interior wall is the one that was smushed.

I told them I didn't want the house "patched". Re-engineer the offending walls the way they were suppose to be and replace them. Don't patch over them. Haven't got an answer on that. More than likely, they will do it the way they want and never be heard from again.

He had said he had done 4 other houses in Thailand. I ask where they were and if he done the same slip-shod work on them. No answer.

If I had it to do over again, I would still want it of steel and the Frame Master system but, I would look for another supplier. He said he has bought a machine and is setting it up in Thailand. But, I wouldn't buy from him.

by **LoongLee** » September 10, 2009, 5:38 am

Farang1,,, I'm certainly not an engineer but the attached photos gave me an idea. Why not place a vertical, doubled metal stud directly under wherever a roof truss member rests on the top plate, after jacking up and replacing the plate of course. Then the load would be carried to the slab. Just my uneducated opinion,,,,

,,,, Good luck !

by **Farang1** » September 10, 2009, 6:06 am

LoongLee wrote:Farang1,,, I'm certainly not an engineer but the attached photos gave me an idea. Why not place a vertical, doubled metal stud directly under wherever a roof truss member rests on the top plate, after jacking up and replacing the plate of course. Then the load would be carried to the slab. Just my uneducated opinion,,,, ,,,, Good luck !

Yes, that is the way it should have been done in the first place. But, they want to "patch" their mistake. Which, I am not in favor of. [-X

They haven't sent me any drawings of the new wall frames they want to put in. Saving it for a surprise, I guess.

by **PeterBlythe** » September 10, 2009, 9:12 am

Contrary to my previous advice Rod, the walls shown are actually the exterior walls, not the interior walls.

The walls need to be remade with the studs directly under the trusses. The weight of the roof with tiles on requires the load to go driectly through the wall studs. Loonglee, you are indeed correct.

Cheers
Pete

by **LoongLee** » September 10, 2009, 8:51 pm

Thanks Pete,,,, I guess it's true what they say, "even a blind squirrel can find a nut in the forest some days" :lol:

by **Farang1** » September 11, 2009, 1:35 am

PeterBlythe wrote:Contrary to my previous advice Rod, the walls shown are actually the exterior walls, not the interior walls.

The walls need to be remade with the studs directly under the trusses. The weight of the roof with tiles on requires the load to go driectly through the wall studs. Loonglee, you are indeed correct.

Cheers
Pete

Pete, you may have seen photos of the exterior walls that I haven't. The photos I posted that my wife took, are a little close for me to be sure. But, knowing my floor plan and watching it being assembled, "Probalem3" could be an exterior wall. The other 2 photos are interior walls. I have not seen any other pics of it. I cc'd you with all my corespondence with Viwat. Other than the drawing, I have not heard from him. The walls need to be remade and replaced.

This is a result of using one program to design the walls and another to design the trusses, never the 2 shall meet.

My wife tells me there is another house going up that is made of light gauge steel like ours. She going to take some photos so I can see.

by **NOLA** » September 11, 2009, 10:04 am

Farang1,
Where is this new house your wife makes reference to...NOLA

by **Farang1** » September 11, 2009, 11:03 pm

My wife says it is on the west side of town. She is going over to take a look and get some pics, Saturday. Her cousin told her about it. Cousin's husband is the general contractor that is doing our house...the non-frame part. I am planning on taking a look see when I get into town in Oct.

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