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Re: Housing Projects

Postby JR » March 8, 2011, 7:56 pm

rct wrote:Khondam generally and often makes some good points, many posters do. And most readers likely agree, different strokes for different folks, that is why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream as we don't all like the same.

However, Khondam has stated more than once on this very threed, that the Thai buyers at Le Cellini want status and to prove to their friends they are wealthy enough to live among westerners. It is a funny attitude, showing something of a superiority complex, or I am not sure what. What?

There happens to be a class of successful Thais, and farangs I might add, who can afford stuff, not all are seeking to "raise" their status, some have long already had financial means above the majority farang in Udon (often thought of as retired, though not all of us are retired). Many with means still appear modest to most outsiders if you saw the daily behavior and demeanor, though perhaps their house and cars are more premium than the average Joe. The whole country is not poor. And not all farangs marry poor village girls. Sweeping generalizations are tricky to make.

Le Cellini buyers seem humble enough ,and simply like it and want to be here and raise their families. They aren't doing it for show, they need not show, they have plenty of money and simply wish to live comfortably according to their personal choice and definition, not Khondam's.

The Thais here welcome all, 8 of 11 buyers thus far are Thai, and a Brit, French and American. With another 13 plots to build plus the owner's plot, hopefully the good mix and quality of neighbors continues, hence my motivation to help attract and complete the project.


When saying what you do about your thai neighbours just shows you know nothing about thai mentality and "face". Also, I find it a bit pathetic that you, every time someone directs some critics towards Celini or your choice of house, you go into defense position. I do not understand why you feel you have to do that. Maybe you should look at yourself and ask. I said before, it is your choice what you deem important. You don't have to defend yourself here. But the more you do the more you show.
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby KHONDAHM » March 8, 2011, 9:37 pm

@rct/wazza
wazza joined in 2006 and has a few thousand posts. rct joined in 2007 and has less than 160. All that time, there are just 2 other threads where they both post. Aren't those some interesting facts? :-#
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby jackspratt » March 8, 2011, 10:02 pm

Paranoia is never a good look KD. :-#

I have been following this thread with some interest, but not contributed so far as I am highly unlikely as to ever have to make a decision about where I am going to live in Muang Udon Thani (thank goodness).

I have been surprised how personally (based on their writings here) people seem to have taken a decision by someone, as to how he spends his money - seemingly not hurting anyone else in the process.

Would I spend ฿14m on a house here? No.

Do I give a rat's asre if anyone else chooses to do so. An even more resounding no.

The most interesting fact that stands out to me on this thread is that it is rct's money, not yours.
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby LoveDaBlues » March 8, 2011, 10:18 pm

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Re: Housing Projects

Postby kopkei » March 8, 2011, 10:34 pm

indeed ,everybody is entitled to spend his money the way they want , luckily,whether it is a 500.000bath home or 20.000.000 home , all up to them , no need to criticize , and after reading all this many pages all ready i wonder is there only one housing project? maybe we must change the OP to housing project la cellini? looks like this topic is headed to be a topic locked again , so we all know about la cellini, let us see some other housing projects ,and stop the backstabbing as this is getting boring :( , sorry....
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby KHONDAHM » March 8, 2011, 11:39 pm

jackspratt wrote:Paranoia is never a good look KD. :-#

The most interesting fact that stands out to me on this thread is that it is rct's money, not yours.

I accept the criticism and do not argue with facts.

Other posters make a valid point. The topic is "Housing Projects". Plural. Perhaps that is what is the thorn about this whole thread. Anyone who has been following it must agree that it always comes back to Cellini. I've complimented the place in the past and especially the marketing strategy. I agree that perhaps if the thread title were "Le Cellini Housing Projects", then it would be clear that this is a part of that marketing effort and not just opinions of someone who "happens" to live there. I guess I am saying, rct, is just try being real about it.

Le Cellini is a sponsor of Udon Map. I would not think Lee would have any problem at all with you having your own "Le Cellini Housing Projects" thread; and a lot of forum members would respect that thread. Nobody is out to kick over another man's rice bowl, ya know? We all are keenly aware of the chips stacked against us all to want to be another chip on the stack. But when you create a thread about "Housing Projects" as a cover for promoting Cellini, that is just begging for what you have been getting.

That's just my opinion, and I will now TRY to bugger off elsewhere.

(I always wanted to say "bugger off" - I hope I did so correctly and appropriately. British slang is so cute.) :lol:
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby writemotive » March 8, 2011, 11:49 pm

I just looked in to see what might be up to date on housing projects as we are building a home on wife's family's land in the countryside and I would like something in town when the kids need to be nearer resources, schools, etc. in town. Wow, instead I find an expert post on Thai mentality and "face", and why Thai with money need to live in Cellini. I was confused and thought they might have just wanted to live there. May I ask what I am doing if I move into an above average priced subdivision. I am not Thai, but what does it say about my mentality? Farang envy?
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby Laan Yaa Mo » March 9, 2011, 1:44 am

Khon Dahm, the same thing happened with the Adulyadej Thanon thread as it has just become a cover for a member/sponsor to highlight and glorify his and other farang establishments on the street.
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby rct » March 9, 2011, 6:14 am

My first post on this thread is located on page 7 dated Oct 19 2008, tried to get the thread back on track and dicuss multiple housing projects in a positive discussion. Ditto from time to time in later posts intended to reignite dicsussion including re other projects.

Seldom getting any reply at all re other projects, only bashing. Nice housing and eating well are the only two threads of interest to me, Khondam figured out my secret.

I still go into new estates and look around, sometimes to help friends looking, and in part as I pondered investing in a little project for midrange, though concluded not a good use of my time and money for now, I still have a day job.

Apologies if my polite replies to negative posters in periodic debate, seemed to take over the thread, or seemed defensive including this one today.

Over and out.
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby Khun Paul » March 9, 2011, 10:11 am

When this thread started it was about Housing projects in general and their pitfalls if any. I can honestly state having read through the majority of the posts, that you pay your money and you get your choice.
However I will reiterate, when I came here with loadsa of money, I looked at the majoprity of the then current new, old and under construction housing projects, and this is what I found,
This is not sour grapes just observations.
No matter who builds the project PK, Tanadorn or others, after the builder has finished the project goes down the swannee. Small shops/ businesses spring up coupled with the ensuing mess and that fact that the project is not kept as clean, people sell up and move out the facilities are not the same standard, in general the project becomes a bloody mess, there are some exceptions, privately owned projects where the owner lives on the site, but they are very rare indeed, and you would have to know the owner to know that fact.

personally although time consuming and tedious spending time looking for a private plot outside of a project or a old house in need of refurbishment on a private plot will have far more advantages over a housing project.

I quote a friend who looked at a project in BKK some years ago, for approx 2.5-3 mill, now that project is a bloody shambles as those with money have moved out to newer projects etc etc:- the spiral goes on, it is the same with cars, Thai's buy, no service nothing then they trade in and the car is a mechanical mess.
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Re: Housing Projects

Postby BkkBill » March 11, 2011, 11:40 pm

Yes indeed the thread is called Housing Projects unfortunately that has long been abandoned.

Now it has become not only tedious reading but a pissing match with the contestants rehashing the same old, same old points for some two hundred and eighty posts all trying to prove a narrow point of view that really has nothing to do with housing estates but the way they think we all should be living. IMHO.
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