I didn't know that!!

by **FrazeeDK** » September 11, 2006, 6:49 pm

While doodling around on the PC, I decided to Ping www.udonmap.com
which is IP 207.44.134.98. I then went to an IP Locator website at:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation I entered Udonmap.com and imagine my surprise when it told me the web server is located in Chicago Illinois!!

by **AznBigG** » September 11, 2006, 7:31 pm

FrazeeDK wrote:While doodling around on the PC, I decided to Ping www.udonmap.com
which is IP 207.44.134.98. I then went to an IP Locator website at:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation I entered Udonmap.com and imagine my surprise when it told me the web server is located in Chicago Illinois!!

Don't be surprised. A web server can be located anywhere in the world. A web site can be set up and managed completely through the internet so location (both website and server) is irrelavent.

I once managed a website for a company located in California, but the server was in Amsterdam.

I have a friend who lives in Las Vegas but sells designer clothing to people living in Japan. His web server is in Canada. Go figure :lol:

Ahhhh, the wonders of the internet eh? :wink:

by **JimboPSM** » September 11, 2006, 9:55 pm

There can be good legal and freedom of speech reasons for not having a server in a particular country.

For instance the US would not be a good place for an internet gambling server, additionally the US is not a healthy place to visit or even try to pass through if you work for an internet gambling operation - two Brits recently arrested in US for that.

From BBC Business News: http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5333850.stm

Online gaming firm Sportingbet has seen its share price plunge by 40% following the arrest of its chairman Peter Dicks.

Mr Dicks was held in New York on Thursday under a warrant issued by state authorities in Louisiana accusing him of "gambling by computer".

by **AznBigG** » September 12, 2006, 4:37 am

JimboPSM wrote:There can be good legal and freedom of speech reasons for not having a server in a particular country.

Yes, legal issues is one of the major factors in locating the server in a particular country.

by **BKKSTAN** » September 12, 2006, 7:23 am

Jimbo,what is your opinion about why the stock dropped 40%?Seems like a very big drop for a particular company.If it has to do with the possible loss of USA customers,I would think that the losses would be equally felt by all online gambling stocks.Might be a buying opportunity!

by **JimboPSM** » September 12, 2006, 8:39 am

BKKSTAN wrote::) Jimbo,what is your opinion about why the stock dropped 40%?Seems like a very big drop for a particular company.If it has to do with the possible loss of USA customers,I would think that the losses would be equally felt by all online gambling stocks.Might be a buying opportunity!

I believe the business plan for many of the internet gambling operations assumes that a large number of the punters will be from the US.

The stock dropped 40% because it was the company chairman who was arrested and that is someone they can't really walk away from (the previous person arrested was immediately fired by his company and left high and dry on his own). It now seems inevitable that this company as a minimum will incur huge legal costs to get their chairman back and possibly huge fines as well and the company will have to take steps to eliminate any US customers which will knock a big hole in its customer / turnover base.

Although these companies received legal advice that their operations were legal, it appears that the Christian Taleban that runs the US feels that it has the legislation in place that can prevent its citizens from indulging in the heinous sin of gambling even when the bet is placed with an institution outside its borders because the money for the bet is directly traceable from finance institutions which are inside its borders.

A broker on Bloomberg said earlier tonight that gambing stocks are viewed by market professionals as a gamble :lol:

In conclusion, I don't view this as a particularly sound investment opportunity

by **BKKSTAN** » September 12, 2006, 8:48 am

Got to get that tax money :lol:

by **banpaeng** » September 12, 2006, 8:53 am

JimboPSM wrote:[
Although these companies received legal advice that their operations were legal, it appears that the Christian Taleban that runs the US feels that it has the legislation in place that can prevent its citizens from indulging in the heinous sin of gambling even when the bet is placed with an institution outside its borders because the money for the bet is directly traceable from finance institutions which are inside its borders.

Oh Jimbo, you are so right. They are led by the king of the Christian Taliban George himself. In his second term he has capitulated to many request.

Only thing I hope is no more Billery or Hillery or any of their ilk. Who does that leave? Good question.

by **Kudjap or Bust** » September 12, 2006, 9:15 am

Have you treid visiting some of the gambling sites from Thailand, you actually get a Police notice back in Thai script, the kids tell me it basially says the site is blocked.

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