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Re: I was quoted 500,000 B for a pool!

Postby jimboLV » September 30, 2010, 8:09 am

KHONDAHM wrote:IMHO and having just completed building a rather beautiful American-style house myself, putting in a pool is ridiculous. Yes, it is up to you - blah, blah, blah; but it sure is a hella lot cheaper to take the family and check into a hotel/resort for a swim and a day away from the usual. Now, a large jacuzzi or a small (4 x 3) lap pool make practical sense to me, but do they even have decent lap pools around here?


Packing up the family to a hotel to swim in a pool of dubious sanitation, open for limited periods of time, and paying exorbitant prices for drinks and snacks, is not my idea of a good time, but to each his own. I lived in Las Vegas and enjoyed my pool. You can't beat an early morning swim at 6 AM; or having friends over for barbecue and taking a dip while it's cooking; or even those moonlight swims with your sweetheart, sans swimsuits. I'll stop there since this is a family forum. [-(

To get back on topic, ฿500,000 doesn't seem out of line for a pool. My pool in the US cost the equivalent of ฿1,300,000 but it was super deluxe with all the singing and dancing. It was 4 X 8 meters by 1.5 m deep. kidney shaped, reinforced concrete plaster and tile; in ground automated cleaning system; underground lighting; oversize pump and filter system; solar heat; waterfall; all remotely operated from inside the house. I wouldn't think pools here in Thailand would be much cheaper. One reason things are cheaper here is the low labor cost and the major cost component of a pool is not the labor but the materials.

Best thing to do is to get a few quotes from reputable pool contractors (if there are any here in Udon) and compare. But first do plenty of research because there are pools and then there are pools. There are many features available which you may or may not want and they can change the cost considerably.
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Re: I was quoted 500,000 B for a pool!

Postby monkeyman » September 30, 2010, 8:23 am

I can 100% recommend JD Pools which also happens to be a sponsor on here,

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Professional from start to finish and excellent after sales service, =D>
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Re: I was quoted 500,000 B for a pool!

Postby fdimike » September 30, 2010, 8:53 am

I couldn't agree more with what JimboLv says. The bottom line is do your homework and don't rely on what you are told by the local pool shops. Quick example. I needed to replace the filter pumps (2) and didn't realize they had to be sent to BKK because no one up this way can do the work. To make matters worse they are Chinese made and the parts had to be oredered from China. I opted to replace both pumps due to their age (5 years) and visited a local dealer who tried to sell me a pump which was rated (water delivery) well above the capacity of the filter. It didn't sound right to me so I questioned him further and he told me that it would make backwashing the filter much easier???????????? I asked what do I do with the extra water that the pump will move to the filter on a regular basis and received back a blank stare with a grin? I contacted the pump manufacturer office in BKK and they confirmed for me that you do NOT want a pump which pumps more water than the filter can handle. All the guy in udon wanted was the bigger sale. My experience with pool dealers here in Udon is "buyer beware".

The original installer NEVER told me anything about servicing the pumps and I stupidly never asked. The same goes for the skimmer boxes which are also Chinese made and difficult to repair.

As for costs. True labvor is cheaper but components which have to be imported more than make up for the cheap labor. Building a pool is an expensive proposition here in Thailand but but in the end certainly worthwhile from my prospective.

Never having a pool in the US despite living in Florida definitely worked against me when it came time to build one here. Do your homework before venturing down this road which can easily turn slippery.

As for JD Pools. I could disagree more with monkeyman. JD Pools in BKK was supposed to design a filtration system for my pool. I paid them 10,000B for the design and as a downpayment for the system. I received nothing in return despite numerous phone calls. A year later we were contacted by their BKK office and told we would forfeit the money because we never went forward with the project. Never mind they didn't design the system as they said they would. Bottom line is we lost 10,000B. Live and learn. Additionally, I don't THINK they will build a concrete in ground pool. To the best of my knowledge their pools are in ground with a plastic liner or a preformed plastic/fiberglass tub.
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Re: I was quoted 500,000 B for a pool!

Postby fdimike » September 30, 2010, 8:56 am

I forgot to add the following re: construction costs for a pool. Steel rebar (highstrength type) is also expensive these days and will also offset the low cost of labor.
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Re: I was quoted 500,000 B for a pool!

Postby kopkei » September 30, 2010, 10:20 am

fdimike ,look like for a good swimming pool you have had already many problems, how old is the pool anyway...., as you say it is all about making good marketing research, when i wanted to build i went to look everywhere, shops , hotels private homes..etc..., read on internet a lot , first pool i saw was a jdl pool, and i agree with you, at that time this pool was 10x5 build above ground, had liner no tiles ( life expectansy 10 yrs, make it 7 or 8 in thailand) , the filter was located in the stair, and consisted of a sort of bag ( i call it a coffee bag ) surely for me not adequate enough , price of this pool was 700.000 bath???, ( later i heard many of these pools get a lot of problems wich disappear after installing a descent filter..) , i have a friend in central thailand whom put about same pool as mine , he had problems with water quality , green water , milky water not clear..., because ( at least i think ) he made the installer talk him into buying a sand filter wich was even more expensive than my DE filter ( he is going to replace it, so..), as of reparation skimmer , not much can break in skimmer??, about steel rebars, the swim companies are using 9 and 6 mm bars as they use in the home building , i used 12mm re-enforced irons in my pool wall-floor( double layer) , never breaks,btw my pool is 7yrs old, never had problem water, pump ( the pump is american and maintenance free) , only had to replace magnetic switch in control box ( due to bad electric,TIT,did it myself) costprice 1.000 bath...,last advice , do not buy made in china , at least for some things, all junk without long life expectansy.......
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Re: I was quoted 500,000 B for a pool!

Postby fdimike » September 30, 2010, 11:17 am

You're right about buying stuff made in China. It would have taken me months to have those pumps repaired. The replacements are european made and can be repaired here in Udon. I am also using an American made Hayward DE filter. Great clear water all the time. I have a salt water pool which does not require the addition of chlorine to the water. There is an electronic controller which electronically seperates the chlorine atoms from the sodium atoms. The free chlorine then disinfects the water and eventually joins back up with the sodium atoms creating salt again. The cycle repeats itself over and over as long as the pumps are on. This type of system is easier on the skin and hair and does not burn your eyes like regular chlorine will. The salt level is about the same as human tears.

I have no problem at all with the construction of the pool. No cracks or problems with the shell. The only problems I've had have been related to the cheap Chinese crap which was installed by a local pool dealer. The pool was built by the contractor who built the house and is quite sound. I posted earlier that the pool shell is sitting on a series of concrete pilings for added stability.

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