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Re: Impact of Immigration on Europe

Postby saint » April 22, 2009, 7:21 am

it does not matter who is in power . the fact of the matter is , that politicaly correct liberals in the civil service run the country !!!!! and as long as these faceless w~nkers do ,nothing will improve . good post baz , and i agree with everything you said . as for britain losing her identity , i personaly think that happened years ago . i feel sorry for any brit stuck there for however long , and that includes my family . i think the situation has got so bad now , that barring a civil war , nothing can be done to stop the rot . political correctness is all well and good , but surely any governments priority is to its own people . british people now have less rights than immagrants !!!!! the lunatics are indeed running the asylum , and have been doing so for a long , long time . i can see a hatred and resentment building towards these people reminisent of what happened in germany in the early 30s towards the jews . old enoch was , in my eyes spot on the money .
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Re: Impact of Immigration on Europe

Postby cookie » April 27, 2010, 8:40 am

LoongLee wrote:Hope this post is still considered "on topic". I'm not sure the original post's question is ultra-important, to either GB or the US.
After reading some of the past posts to this and other forums, a more important question would appear to be "What impact will the increasing militancy and questionable allegiances of immigrants have on the UK's foreign policy, let alone national culture".
IMHO, the huge numbers of Islamic immigrants and their effect on the nations of Europe (especially GB, France, and Germany) are in fact, the opening salvos of a War of Civilizations, whether to remain in the darkness of the 14th Century or progess through the 21st Century.


it seems that one year later this threat is still active.... :cry:
there was an other thread about this topic (This may scare the H E L L out of you. (Muslim Demographics)) but this thread is closed.

Germany’s first minister of Turkish heritage was clouded by a controversy over her call for a ban on Christian crucifixes in state schools.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=germanys-first-minister-with-turkish-background-no-love-for-the-c-2010-04-26



Özkan’s crucifix ban call stirs uproar in Germany

Monday, April 26, 2010
BERLIN - Daily News with wires


The oath-taking ceremony of Germany’s first minister of Turkish heritage was clouded by a controversy over her call for a ban on Christian crucifixes in state schools.

Aygül Özkan, the 38-year-old daughter of a Turkish immigrant family, is expected to be sworn in as Social Affairs Minister in Lower-Saxony on Tuesday. However, she now finds herself subject to criticism even within her own party ranks after calling for a ban on religious symbols in schools.

“Christian symbols do not belong in state-run schools. Public schools should be neutral spaces, free of religious symbols, for the same reason that headscarves are inappropriate,” Özkan, previously a lawyer and a local government deputy in the northern German city of Hamburg, said in an interview with the news weekly Focus last week.

Members of the Christian Democratic Party, or CDU, have been quick to denounce the comments and some demanded she renounce her regional minister role, which she is due to assume Tuesday. Lower Saxony state Minister-President Christian Wulff, from the CDU, who won praise for appointing Özkan to his cabinet, brushed aside her comments as “personal opinion” and reaffirmed that his government welcomed crosses in schools.

“In Lower-Saxony, we value Christian symbols, especially crucifixes in schools, on behalf of a tolerant education based on Christian values, as intended by the regional government” the German press agency, DPA, quoted Wulff as saying.



However, the CDU’s sister party, the Christian Social Union, or CSU, General-Secretary Alexander Dobrindt criticized Wulff on Monday, and said he would “better have a talk with [Özkan] about Christian Democratic politics.”

Stefan Mueller, a member of parliament who represents the CDU and CSU on integration issues, used stronger language, calling the remarks “absurd and shocking.”

“Politicians who want to ban crosses in schools should think about whether they belong in a Christian party,” Mueller was quoted as saying in German media.

Meanwhile, the acting Social Democratic Party chair and long-time mayor of Berlin, Klaus Wowereit, saw in Özkan a symbolic appointment by the CDU, and said the conservative party was not quite “ready” for a minister with a Turkish migration background, reported the Die Welt Online.

Not towing the official line, she voiced support for an open-ended negotiation process for Turkey’s EU membership, whereas her ruling coalition party, including Chancellor Angela Merkel, distinctively prefers a different partnership of some sort.

Wowereit recommended Özkan rethink her party membership before being sworn into office, as “her policy stance has long been accepted in the SPD.”
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