Importing Personal and Household Effects

Want to know how to get somewhere, or where something is, ask here.
Sateev
udonmap.com
Posts: 465
Joined: March 27, 2011, 9:29 am

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by Sateev » November 5, 2011, 4:02 pm

Was in Nakhon Phanom last weekend, stopped to put some air in my motorcycle tires, and saw a kite powerplant/seat frame in the shop. Talked to the guy for quite a while about ultralights, and he showed me his license. He told me that, on 11/11/11, at the opening of the new bridge, 30 or so ultralights will fly across the Mekong, as part of the opening ceremonies. Might be worth a drive over there...

430xc - are you here already, or just asking all these questions in preparation for an eventual move?



430xc
udonmap.com
Posts: 183
Joined: May 17, 2011, 4:52 am

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by 430xc » December 6, 2011, 9:46 am

Hi Sateev: I do not yet live in LOS. I am still in the visiting stage. I will be in the Udon area for about a month after February 2012. I have been in several ultralights as a passenger/student in the US and think this the way for me to satisfy my flight passion. I prefer a trick and rudder plane as opposed to a tricycle type ultralight. I hold a private pilot's license in the US but I have not flown in several years due to the cost.

I expect to be living closer to full time in Thailand within 2 years and would like to be able to fly there. I have a special interest in a Sorrell Hiperlight. I visited the factory when the Sorrell brothers were making the plane and was VERY impressed. It is a negative stagger biplane and has a very substantial frame and enclosed cockpit. Since I do not want to pay $20 K for a new one, I will maybe look for a used model here in the US and consider sending it to Thailand in a shipping crate.

Are there places to rent ultralights in the Udon area? How about renting conventional aircraft and prices? Thank you for the information you posted about flight rules, etc. Item 9 talks about maintenance and it is unclear to me if the owner can work on his own plane. Are the "practical and practiced" rules for flying in rural areas similar to those practices for cars and motorbikes. If you don.t cause a problem in a non-congested area and don't hurt someone, you can do as you please with reason.

User avatar
Alchai
udonmap.com
Posts: 257
Joined: January 26, 2009, 8:06 pm
Location: In the boat

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by Alchai » December 6, 2011, 5:57 pm

430xc wrote:Are there places to rent ultralights in the Udon area? How about renting conventional aircraft and prices?
Hi 430xc
Check out this place!
http://www.thaiskydiving.com/
We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now

430xc
udonmap.com
Posts: 183
Joined: May 17, 2011, 4:52 am

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by 430xc » December 7, 2011, 2:40 pm

Thank you very much for link to thaiskydive.com
I talked about it with my TGF
It will take some real convincing to get her to paricipate
I will be in Udon around Songkran
I definitely will check out this place
Thanks again
430xc

Mikey3073
udonmap.com
Posts: 14
Joined: August 25, 2009, 10:04 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects- Using bonded wareh

Post by Mikey3073 » June 25, 2014, 8:34 pm

Evening all.

It's been suggested that if I use a bonded warehouse to import personal belongings (wifey's) i.e. new car BMW X3
that it would do away with the problem of having to pay tea money, or more of a concern loosing the car completely because some customs guy wants to bid on it [-X :-"
I don't mind paying the usual duties we've read about, even a bit of tea money, but not to loose out loads of money.
Has any one bought a vehicle in this way. Is it feesable, viable.
Any information with or without links would be greatly appreciated.

Forgive me if I've posted wrongly/pinched some one's thread, Moderator please feel free to move/re-title if needs.

Regards.

User avatar
samster
udonmap.com
Posts: 1137
Joined: June 3, 2014, 2:16 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by samster » June 25, 2014, 11:52 pm

Have you actually bought the car Mikey? Where are you importing from? Might be able to help

User avatar
maaka
udonmap.com
Posts: 3314
Joined: October 9, 2007, 6:03 am

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by maaka » June 26, 2014, 5:49 am

alittle off center Mikey, but I have exported motorbikes from Thailand ( and USA )..and I will probably do the reverse next year when I move over, and have a workshop to store them in..

I used one of the household removal sponsors that is /was on this site..ABS Relocations..
they are BKK based but sent a wee truck up to my hotel carpark in Udon, threw the bikes on, took them back to BKK, crated them up, put them in a shipping container, did all the paperwork at both departure and entry points, and all I had to do was take a trailer and pick up when they arrived...they could have delivered to my front door if I had wanted..so I intend to use them next year for the reverse trip...

in regards the USA bike, I just looked in my local phonebook, found a Logistics company, who freight stuff all over the world in shipping contaners..they have a dirty great big Peterbilt truck that crosses the US on a weekly bases, picking up bikes, and they had a Packing Company on the docks in Charleston SC, who crated the bike up and packed it..Logistics did most of the paperwork, but I had to get a Customs import number and an Inspection before release..

so I dont know where you are coming from, but go for a reputable shipping company, as they have secure storage in various countries dock areas..they can do all the paperwork as generally they have agents in said countries...

a squeeze at the Thai Customs website re importing cars, might give you abit of an idea of whats involved...I dare say someone will come along who has imported a car to help fill in the gaps I ahve missed

Sateev
udonmap.com
Posts: 465
Joined: March 27, 2011, 9:29 am

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by Sateev » June 26, 2014, 6:07 am

So far no one has even mentioned actually registering the car, or insuring it for the road. You will NEVER, as an individual, be able to get a blue book (tabien rot) for the vehicle, and therefore won't be able to legally insure it or drive it on the road.

You'll find the cost to import it will be approximately 130% of its value, making it far better to drive it off the dock into the drink at the point of embarking and buy a new one when you arrive in Thailand.

There is actually a process by which you may be able to eventually register it, but it involves leaving it at the Thai Institute of Standards (TIS) in Samut Prakan fo a few months, while they test it for emissions and safety compliance. 50,000 baht
and up, IIRC.

This topic has been done to death, here and elsewhere. Don't even think about it.

User avatar
Khun Paul
udonmap.com
Posts: 7743
Joined: September 16, 2008, 3:28 pm
Location: Udon Thani

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by Khun Paul » June 26, 2014, 8:36 am

When I was intending to come here, I thought I would bring my CRV and anoter small car for running about in, the cost of transportation was not that expensive as you just pay for a large container. BUT when you get here the car has to be inspected and verified, normally with a well known car not too much of a problem, if you had all the paperwork done in your home country. It would then be registered here and book supplied upon registration`. The cost was quoted for a car was about £5000:- then import tax payable on the p[rice new on the date you purchased it, basically it was not worth it but I did a lot of research and found it to be so damn time consuming, expensive this side and open to the vagaries of the Customs people.

User avatar
jackspratt
udonmap.com
Posts: 16079
Joined: July 2, 2006, 5:29 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects- Using bonded wareh

Post by jackspratt » June 26, 2014, 9:49 am

Mikey3073 wrote:Evening all.

It's been suggested that if I use a bonded warehouse to import personal belongings (wifey's) i.e. new car BMW X3
that it would do away with the problem of having to pay tea money, or more of a concern loosing the car completely because some customs guy wants to bid on it [-X :-"
What is your understanding of the term "bonded warehouse"?

Mikey3073
udonmap.com
Posts: 14
Joined: August 25, 2009, 10:04 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by Mikey3073 » June 28, 2014, 5:59 pm

samster wrote:Have you actually bought the car Mikey? Where are you importing from? Might be able to help
Apologies. should've been a bit more specific.

We looked into buying it from new in UK. We (Wifey) spoke to customs and I asked her to read through their web site to try and get in in B&W, all seemed fine but then we've heard horror stories of people being charged large amounts of money to get their vehicle freed that it became not worth it, so then it would be "auctioned off" to pay the fees.

At the time it was something like ..
Had to be Thia resident returning from other country that had to be the owner of that vehicle for 2 years.
Then the VAT was on a sliding scale according to age/value of car.

We roughly worked out that on a £34K vehicle the VAT would be towards £3400 (10%) this i think worked out as the car would've been 3 years old on the export date. plus shipping which we were quoted over the phone £1,200 (this sounds cheap reading some of the other posts now)

But we also heard that the valuation would be done on their prices which would've worked out at £8000.

Mikey3073
udonmap.com
Posts: 14
Joined: August 25, 2009, 10:04 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects- Using bonded wareh

Post by Mikey3073 » June 28, 2014, 6:10 pm

jackspratt wrote:
Mikey3073 wrote:Evening all.

It's been suggested that if I use a bonded warehouse to import personal belongings (wifey's) i.e. new car BMW X3
that it would do away with the problem of having to pay tea money, or more of a concern loosing the car completely because some customs guy wants to bid on it [-X :-"
What is your understanding of the term "bonded warehouse"?
Thank you Jackspratt.

I believe it to be a secure holding area where only the owner or nominated person could remove the vehicle. But more importantly, a place that because a premium is payed to the warehouse owner, this negates the need to involve the wrong type of customs person.
I'm not trying to sneak around the system, just the greedy people.

Please feel free to educate me more.

Mikey3073
udonmap.com
Posts: 14
Joined: August 25, 2009, 10:04 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects- Using bonded wareh

Post by Mikey3073 » June 28, 2014, 6:39 pm

Mikey3073 wrote:
jackspratt wrote:
Mikey3073 wrote:Evening all.

It's been suggested that if I use a bonded warehouse to import personal belongings (wifey's) i.e. new car BMW X3
that it would do away with the problem of having to pay tea money, or more of a concern loosing the car completely because some customs guy wants to bid on it [-X :-"
What is your understanding of the term "bonded warehouse"?
Thank you Jackspratt.

I believe it to be a secure holding area where only the owner or nominated person could remove the vehicle. But more importantly, a place that because a premium is payed to the warehouse owner, this negates the need to involve the wrong type of customs person.
I'm not trying to sneak around the system, just the greedy people.

Please feel free to educate me more.
...............I sit corrected, found this http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connec ... warehouses

:-k looks like back to square one :confused:

Mikey3073
udonmap.com
Posts: 14
Joined: August 25, 2009, 10:04 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by Mikey3073 » June 28, 2014, 6:41 pm

Wow...........Any retired mathematicians around Udon ?
Found their full import details

http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connec ... nalvehicle

:confused:

User avatar
stattointhailand
udonmap.com
Posts: 19114
Joined: October 25, 2007, 11:34 pm
Location: Oiling the locks on my gun case

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by stattointhailand » June 28, 2014, 6:45 pm

If it was easy to understand Mikey, how would they be able to prove that you have read it wrong ..........but don't worry, I'm sure there will be a way that the officer will be able to circumnavigate the problem for you ...........

User avatar
samster
udonmap.com
Posts: 1137
Joined: June 3, 2014, 2:16 pm

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by samster » June 28, 2014, 11:56 pm

Mikey3073 wrote:
samster wrote:Have you actually bought the car Mikey? Where are you importing from? Might be able to help
Apologies. should've been a bit more specific.

We looked into buying it from new in UK. We (Wifey) spoke to customs and I asked her to read through their web site to try and get in in B&W, all seemed fine but then we've heard horror stories of people being charged large amounts of money to get their vehicle freed that it became not worth it, so then it would be "auctioned off" to pay the fees.

At the time it was something like ..
Had to be Thia resident returning from other country that had to be the owner of that vehicle for 2 years.
Then the VAT was on a sliding scale according to age/value of car.

We roughly worked out that on a £34K vehicle the VAT would be towards £3400 (10%) this i think worked out as the car would've been 3 years old on the export date. plus shipping which we were quoted over the phone £1,200 (this sounds cheap reading some of the other posts now)

But we also heard that the valuation would be done on their prices which would've worked out at £8000.

I do have contacts re importing from UK (legitimately!!) but it is expensive. I can't PM yet as a newbie but if you want more details am happy to talk. I am moving to Thailand in less than a fortnight so, if you are there then I can contact you somehow?

User avatar
JimboPSM
udonmap.com
Posts: 3581
Joined: July 4, 2005, 3:23 pm
Location: Isle of Man / Bangkok / Udon Thani

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by JimboPSM » June 29, 2014, 1:19 am

Over the years there have been numerous threads which have covered importing vehicles; here are links to two of them (NB the links in the posts on them are old and may no longer be valid):
While it has been done successfully, with all the hassle plus the very large import duty charges I don’t believe that any of those who have done so would consider ever doing it again.
Ashamed to be English since 23rd June 2016 when England voted for racism & economic suicide.

Disgusted that the UK is “governed” by a squalid bunch of economically illiterate, self-serving, sleazy and corrupt neo-fascists.

User avatar
FrazeeDK
udonmap.com
Posts: 4910
Joined: February 13, 2006, 2:02 am
Location: Udon Thani Thailand

Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by FrazeeDK » June 29, 2014, 8:23 am

Thai Customs website. Scroll down to the lower left PERSONAL area for info on importing vehicles and personal goods into Thailand http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connec ... omeWelCome
Dave

User avatar
ianrodders
udonmap.com
Posts: 131
Joined: October 13, 2011, 2:48 pm

Re: Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by ianrodders » August 17, 2014, 2:18 pm

Texpat wrote:If you've got a Thai wife, and you've been outside of Thailand for a few years, put the stuff in her name -- imported under her passport -- and there are no customs charges. In '06 we shipped a container over -- just under 10,000 pounds and paid zero baht. Zilch, nada from Los Angeles to Udon. Thanks Uncle Sam. On time, nothing missing, nothing broken.

We also brought our dog. Required a visit to the vet at Don Muang and a 200 baht certificate -- but no paperwork in advance. Maybe the rules have changed.
theres my answer thankyou textpat :D

User avatar
jackspratt
udonmap.com
Posts: 16079
Joined: July 2, 2006, 5:29 pm

Re: Importing Personal and Household Effects

Post by jackspratt » August 14, 2015, 8:31 pm

ianrodders wrote:
Texpat wrote: We also brought our dog. Required a visit to the vet at Don Muang and a 200 baht certificate -- but no paperwork in advance. Maybe the rules have changed.
theres my answer thankyou textpat :D
Does anyone have a more recent experience of importing a pet dog into Thailand - the above is from 2014, and Texpat (sigh :D ) is quoting his experience from 2008.

I am asking on behalf of my French brother-in-law, so the pooch is coming from France.

Post Reply

Return to “Travel & Transport”