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Kelley did commit suicide

Postby BobHelm » October 24, 2010, 9:26 pm

The death of Dr. Kelly has been a 'conspiracy theory' favourite in the UK.
Dr. Kelly was a weapons expert who specialised in knowledge of Iraq before the second invasion. In 2003 he leaked information to the BBC about the inaccuracy of some of the British claims made about weapons of mass destruction - saying that they were totally untrue.
After a huge media ruckus he was identified as the 'mole' & was later found dead in his car in the Oxfordshire countryside.
Instead of the normal coroner's inquest, then Prime Minister Tony Blair asked Lord Hutton to conduct an investigation, which found Dr Kelly had died from blood loss after slashing his wrist with a knife. Lord Huttons' inquiry found that Dr. Kelly killed himself but ordered that certain medical details should be sealed for 70 years to 'protect the family'.
Dr. Kelly's family have always said that they believed that the Lord Hutton account of his death were accurate & made after a full investigation that satisfied them completely.
Others have not agreed & so the conspiracy theorists had a field day. So finally the medical details have also been released. I feel for the family. It is not bad enough that a loved one committed suicide 7 years ago & all the details are now been dragged through the media again, but it was also done when they (the main people who mattered) were already satisfied.
Unfortunately even the latest revelations are not enough for some people who still see it all as a 'plot'. The problem is that it is virtually impossible to prove anything 100%, even more so if the recipients of the information don't wish to believe, no matter how strong the evidence is.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11603539
As it happens the inquests for the other huge UK conspiracy theory happening has also started - the inquest into the deaths on 7/7 by British Asian terrorists and their victims on London's transport system.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11497279
The results from that are not expected for months, but I doubt if it will put an end to the 'it was the security services who did it' theories either.
I am, sadly, not of the belief that Governments worldwide always operate to the highest ethical standards however I find some of the web sites that carry 'information' on so say conspiracies are often of the lowest possible standard of accuracy & proclaiming things as true that are down right lies. Sadly people believe them.
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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby hangsaboot » October 25, 2010, 10:04 am

Unfortunately even the latest revelations are not enough for some people who still see it all as a 'plot'. The problem is that it is virtually impossible to prove anything 100%, even more so if the recipients of the information don't wish to believe, no matter how strong the evidence is.

inconclusive evidence , nuff said . [-X
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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby BobHelm » October 25, 2010, 10:50 am

Rather proves my point I would say...
Inconclusive??
In the post-mortem, Home Office pathologist Dr Nicholas Hunt noted that wounds to Dr Kelly's left wrist resulted in "the loss of a significant volume of blood".

They were "entirely consistent with having been inflicted with a bladed weapon" while "their orientation and arrangement...are typical of self-inflicted injury", he concluded.

Among the factors he believes indicated suicide, Dr Hunt said the removal of Dr Kelly's watch and spectacles are "features pointing towards this being an act of self-harm," as is the "relatively passive distribution of blood and....the lack of obvious signs of trampling of the undergrowth or damage to clothing".

Furthermore, there was also a "total lack of classical defence wounds against a sharp weapon attack".
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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby JimboPSM » October 25, 2010, 11:50 am

I agree with you Bob that this was a very sad case of suicide.

The problem with trying to dispel the conspiracy theory in this case is that of “guilt by association”.

The “guilt by association” link is particularly strong because the case made by Tony Blair in the UK Parliament in “The September Dossier” as justification for the UK being a party to, and to drum up support for, the Iraq war has been demonstrated to be deeply flawed.

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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby Texpat » October 25, 2010, 12:07 pm

Alien vampires. Maybe it was the KGB. Or perhaps the director of the Greater Cincinnati Parking Commission.
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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby hangsaboot » October 26, 2010, 10:48 am

Texpat wrote:Alien vampires. Maybe it was the KGB. Or perhaps the director of the Greater Cincinnati Parking Commission.


get a life texpat ,
everyone knows it was our american cousins , from the CIA .

, what other verdict , could they have conjoured up ?,
death by mis-adventure , :-k anything , but not MURDER.
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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby RLTrader » October 26, 2010, 1:33 pm

inquiry found that Dr. Kelly killed himself but ordered that certain medical details should be sealed for 70 years to 'protect the family'.


Wonder why anyone would think conspiracy
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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby Texpat » October 26, 2010, 3:05 pm

This case has Elvis written all over it.
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Re: Kelley did commit suicide

Postby DermotC » October 26, 2010, 5:14 pm

Indeed this case is very sad and if you remember the Doctor testifying at the hearing he seemed like a very troubled man. Sympathies to his family
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