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Post by KHONDAHM » February 6, 2012, 10:36 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but you voted FOR the President (Reagan) who tripled the national debt and expanded government profusely and AGAINST the President (Clinton) who actually did not only balance the budget, but created historical surpluses and began reducing the debt. You voted FOR the President (G.W. Bush) who let 911 happen on his watch, started 2 unfunded wars, caused the 2008 crisis, couldn't find Osama the whole time he was relaxing in his mansion, and destroyed millions of jobs and families around the world - except China and India who benefitted quite well from his policies. You voted AGAINST the President who ended/is ending those wars, killed Osama AND all his top people, bringing back manufacturing jobs, not only saved the auto industry, but made it #1 in the world again, created the conditions to make the Arab Spring possible, and a littany of other accomplishments touted by Republicans but never achieved by them - in spite of them.

Without name-calling, deflecting, or dodging, how difficult is it for you to simply post your voting record and show us all your great political acumen? I state unequivocally and without exception here and now that I take full responsibility for my votes and the impact those votes have had on the country and the world. I challenge you to do the same.


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Post by KHONDAHM » February 6, 2012, 10:56 pm

Further, Mr. Ricohoc, I never ever stated my posts are "independent". That is silly on your part to even suggest. You remain confused even after I clarified it for you previously. I will do so here again:

I am a life-long registered Independent. That is a political affiliation (or lack thereof, depending on how you look at it). It has nothing at all to do with posting without bias. Try to remember that, or simply jot it down andpost it to your green CRT. I am biased towards the candidate or party who makes the most sense and I post that way.

If you are unable to grasp that, please ask a friend to help you understand or explain it to you so that you can.
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Post by gudtymchuk » February 7, 2012, 7:22 am

KHONDAHM wrote:not only saved the auto industry, but made it #1 in the world again, .
Hmmm, the Chevy Volt... yes, what a prize that has become......
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Post by Ricohoc » February 7, 2012, 9:14 am

Mr. Khondahm, I think you should create about 5 or 6 more posts with meaningless afterthoughts and challenges to me. I could list my financial assets, the number of televisions and computers I have in my home, and maybe even the number of two-wheel and four-wheel vehicles. The information I provide would be just as useless and unverifiable as my list of candidates of preference.

After all of those 5 or 6 additional posts by you, maybe then people won't see your posting of false information and flimsy sources for them, or the fact that another forum member called you out over it -- not to mention your inability or unwillingness to deal with your issue of debt and deficits. Some forum members saw that shrotcoming and commented on it, too.

Now you want to play this game of "who did you vote for?". You've even provided some more incomplete and biased information in an attempt to show yourself in an all-knowing political light. And let's not forget the name-calling, the insults and inuendo that you've thrown in there with it. You really can't help yourself, can you? So typical of you in every thread.

You always provide a red herring to change the topic as information is provided to refute what you posted. It is an argument tactic that is juvenile.

I'm wise to it. I don't play -- especially with you.

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Post by KHONDAHM » February 7, 2012, 12:59 pm

Than you for your reply, Mr. Ricohoc. Predictable though it was. Have a bright and sunshine filled day. :)
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Post by randerson79 » February 16, 2012, 11:14 am

A little humor. It made me smile.... and then cry.


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Post by merchant seaman » February 16, 2012, 3:00 pm

KHONDAHM wrote:YAY!!! If precedent is anything to go by, then Newt should be the Republican nominee for President. Yessssssss!

He doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell's microwave of winning in the General Election! Go Newt, go!

Mitt would have been the better worse choice because his Ken doll looks are 'sorta Presidential' and (I'm embarrassed to say) there are lots of American voters - millions - who vote based upon LOOKs.
Well KHONDAHM we can actually agree on something, Obama got elected because of the way he looks. Thank you for explaining that to all the members.

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » February 16, 2012, 7:24 pm

KHONDAHM wrote:I couldn't resist the setup *giggle*

My voting record since Clinton:

1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Paul
2008: Obama
2012: Obama (planned)

Yours? *giggle*

Whatever happened to the concept of the secret ballot?!?
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Post by randerson79 » February 16, 2012, 9:11 pm

If you don't think this "leader" promotes division and class warfare in our Country watch this and think again.



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Post by KHONDAHM » February 17, 2012, 12:52 am

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Post by Tracechain » February 17, 2012, 4:33 am

Where is Harry Truman when you need him?
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Post by randerson79 » February 17, 2012, 9:09 am


Wow! Name calling and the use of the "Urban" dictionary. That really hurts. :confused:

BTW its not hate. It's called "disappointment". Look it up in the Webster.

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Post by jackspratt » February 17, 2012, 10:09 am

randerson79 wrote:If you don't think this "leader" promotes division and class warfare in our Country watch this and think again.

Talking about "division" and "class warfare", when do you reckon questions about his birth certificate and Muslim religion will start raising their ugly heads again? :roll:

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Post by Ricohoc » February 17, 2012, 10:15 am

randerson79 wrote:If you don't think this "leader" promotes division and class warfare in our Country watch this and think again.
People with backgrounds in community organizing, and especially in this president's case, have no record of bringing people together to solve differences. They create divisions that are rooted in class warfare and even use race to gain victory for their side. It is not a win-win proposition for opponents. It is not a compromise. It is divide and destroy.

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Post by randerson79 » February 17, 2012, 10:25 am

jackspratt wrote:
randerson79 wrote:If you don't think this "leader" promotes division and class warfare in our Country watch this and think again.

Talking about "division" and "class warfare", when do you reckon questions about his birth certificate and Muslim religion will start raising their ugly heads again? :roll:
And that's not good for the country either. 2 wrongs don't make a right. Time to suck it up and do what's right for the people. We need leaders to reunite the country not to divide.

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Post by merchant seaman » February 17, 2012, 10:39 am

Why is Obama considered to be the first black american president when he is half white? Why not the first half white or the first half black president? Or more correct the first mulatto president if in fact he is. When Tiger Woods made the golf scene he was aked if he considered himself black american, asian american, or black asian? His reply was he considered himself an American

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Post by KHONDAHM » February 17, 2012, 2:33 pm

Obama dealt with that issue and hasn't bothered with it since. Those from or still clinging to the days when segregation was the norm or who continue to make it a reason or an issue will continue to do so. The facts are that it is 2012, MOST of America is over it, and as those fogies continue to die off in increasing numbers, the rest of America will get over it.

Until fairly recently, my 21 year old nephew thought of it as I think of slavery - something that happened, but isn't around anymore. When he was exposed to it, we celebrated. Why? Because he was 21 before he ever blatantly encountered it. But guess what? It wasn't in America. It was here in Thailand after finishing up soldiering in Iraq. So, my glass is raised to not only Obama and what he represents, but to all my fellow TRUE Americans who made him and my nephew's experience (or lack thereof) possible.

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Post by Ricohoc » February 17, 2012, 3:09 pm

merchant seaman wrote:When Tiger Woods made the golf scene he was aked if he considered himself black american, asian american, or black asian? His reply was he considered himself an American
And that is what an unselfish American would say who is uninterested in propagandizing with all the victim whining.

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Post by LoveDaBlues » February 17, 2012, 4:22 pm

Why is Obama considered to be the first black american president when he is half white?

If his picture were shown to 100 people BEFORE he ran for POTUS (and they didn't know who he was) and they were asked "what is the race of the person in this photo".......100 people would say "black". It's that simple, he LOOKS black so he is considered black.

Obama was elected because: (1) he got a high percentage of the vote from 'persons of color'
(2) the economic crash started during the Republican watch

If the unemployment figures stay roughly the same (or get better) he will be re-elected.

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Post by jackspratt » February 17, 2012, 4:27 pm

Another relevant test - had he been around then, what part of the bus would Obama have sat in during 1954 in Montgomery, Alabama?

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