Ozzies get their own back.

by **Galee** » April 20, 2011, 8:07 am

There use to be a time when the UK sent their criminals to Australia. Today, it's the other way around.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ralia.html

Well done Australia for using common sense. Unfortunately there's not a hope in hell of the UK deporting career criminals back to their home countries because of their bleeding human rights. :evil:

by **Aardvark** » April 20, 2011, 12:20 pm

And Australia only got away with it because it was Briton. In the past they have tried to send home Iraqi's and Afghans, but the excuse is they don't have Deportation Treaties with these Countries :confused:

by **trekkertony** » April 20, 2011, 1:05 pm

The next step should be the delaying of citizenship for refugees and residency visa holders for 15 years to enable a thorough assessment of the individuals compliance to our laws and if an indictable offence is committed and the charge successfully proven, the individual should be returned to their birth country without serving the sentence. The savings on the public purse would be enormous and l believe it would find little resistance from the offender, An exception to this would be the capital offence of unlawful killing where the offender serves his time and then deported. The bleeding hearts would oppose this strongly but for the greater good, individual sacrifices need to be made. I am really struggling to understand the direction our country is heading. Our gaols are filling up with offenders from countries with a high refugee population . Within the prison system we have been forced to provide an all halal meat system, provide prayer rooms, yet we are pulling out school chaplains from schools as the presence of the chaplains offends students from a non christian background. On my last visit to a school l didn't see any gestapo type school official forcing students at the point of gun to visit the school chaplain to discuss any issues the student my be having trouble with. This is just the thin edge of the wedge,

by **jackspratt** » April 20, 2011, 3:59 pm

Aardvark wrote:And Australia only got away with it because it was Briton. In the past they have tried to send home Iraqi's and Afghans, but the excuse is they don't have Deportation Treaties with these Countries

You can hardly deport someone to a country which is not going to accept them.

by **grozza** » April 20, 2011, 4:15 pm

im with you trekkertony this certain race that we keep letting in is changing this country for the worst, i know i might get tagged as a racist but i dont care we are sick of these people from arab countries coming here and causing trouble,we were at the easter show yesterday and there was no less than 60 arab youths standing in the one area between the ages of 13-19 year olds itching for trouble and saying filthy remarks to passing girls of all races,now dont get me wrong i used to hang around with groups of friends as well but these kids are just trouble makers,i have a couple of police friends and they have told me when they take kids back to there parents after they have been caught doing something illegal,the parents favorite line is not my boy he good boy he not bad boy you pick on my boy because he lebanese.
i just hope the australian goverment keeps this up,the trouble is the real refugees are not the ones who make it here its the ones who have money that pay there way here by boat.

by **jackspratt** » April 20, 2011, 4:18 pm

trekkertony wrote:The next step should be the delaying of citizenship for refugees and residency visa holders for 15 years to enable a thorough assessment of the individuals compliance to our laws and if an indictable offence is committed and the charge successfully proven, the individual should be returned to their birth country without serving the sentence. The savings on the public purse would be enormous and l believe it would find little resistance from the offender, An exception to this would be the capital offence of unlawful killing where the offender serves his time and then deported. The bleeding hearts would oppose this strongly but for the greater good, individual sacrifices need to be made. I am really struggling to understand the direction our country is heading. Our gaols are filling up with offenders from countries with a high refugee population . Within the prison system we have been forced to provide an all halal meat system, provide prayer rooms, yet we are pulling out school chaplains from schools as the presence of the chaplains offends students from a non christian background. On my last visit to a school l didn't see any gestapo type school official forcing students at the point of gun to visit the school chaplain to discuss any issues the student my be having trouble with. This is just the thin edge of the wedge,

A few questions tony:

- do prisons in Australia serve only halal meat, and if so, has anyone been harmed by this?

- do they serve kosher meat?

- do prisons in Australia have chapels, for christian worship?

- how does the following statement fit in with "we are pulling out school chaplains from schools......"?

Program Extension and Expansion

In August 2010, the Australian Government announced that a total of $222 million would be provided to extend the National School Chaplaincy Program to December 2014 and to fund up to 1,000 additional schools. The additional funding will focus on schools in disadvantaged, rural and remote communities. No applications for funding are being accepted at this time. Further information will be provided in early 2011.

http://www.deewr.gov.au/schooling/natio ... me.aspx#pe

I would suggest the wedge is being created by those spreading mis-truths and half-truths.

by **MALC** » April 20, 2011, 4:51 pm

i would not bother deporting any undesirables i would just kick them out of the plane over their own countries with no parachute

by **Galee** » April 20, 2011, 4:56 pm

trekkertony wrote: Within the prison system we have been forced to provide an all halal meat system,

Nearly ALL meat in the UK is prepared this way, not just the prisons. Apparently its more cost effective to provide meat that is acceptable to a minority than have two different systems.
If someone has objections to halal meat and prefers their meat slaughtered in a more traditional way, tough, they don't have much choice.

by **Astana** » April 20, 2011, 5:48 pm

According to the laws of Ḏabīḥah halal, certain prerequisites must be met before an animal is slaughtered:

However, I think this is a bit dubious as rule 2 states:

"The slaughter itself must be done by a sane (mentally competent) adult Muslim". :lol:

by **parrot** » April 20, 2011, 6:22 pm

"i would not bother deporting any undesirables i would just kick them out of the plane over their own countries with no parachute"

My Thai's not the best, but I think I overheard a table of locals at Pizza Company say the same thing about some of the falangs in the complex.

by **pienmash** » April 20, 2011, 6:27 pm

Before reading this report i would often mull ...... just why are things so unfair ???????? , i mean the English have been so helpful giving Oz a language to use plus thousands of skilled workers AND EVEN A QUEEN ............ all they got in return was Rolf Harris , Jason Donavan and skippy ........ oh yeah and Wazza .

For anyone that doesnt know Oz (short for Australia) is a small island in the bottom right hand corner of the planet , nearly 1 million people live there , they have strange animals like kangaroos and wombats , more recently the people whi live there (called Ozzies ) have got cars instead of horses and bathrooms actually inside the house .

I like the idea of em sending undesirables to the Uk ...... cos i live in Thailand.

Mash.......... disclaimer - some parts of the above post may not be entirely acurate as its a wyndup

by **BobHelm** » April 20, 2011, 6:33 pm

The title is not quite accurate Galee as the gentleman ( :confused:

) concerned was British.
He should have at least been Australian by birth & preferably from Christmas Island or Norfolk Island (or one of the other groups) to start to be on a par...

Couple of interesting facts while we are on the subject - maybe not as interesting as Mash's but historically a little more correct..

England (technically it might have been Britain but Scotland, Ireland & Wales had no say in the matter) only sent about 160,000 convicts to Australia in total. The country was not actually their first choice & they had already sent 60,000 to America before the small act of a revolution sealed that as an option & they had to look elsewhere. Luckily (??) James Cook had run into a new, virtually empty continent in the interim.

by **Astana** » April 20, 2011, 8:38 pm

The cops that got rid must happy, bet James Cook could never thought about the irony of it. The world truely discovered... Sent back to Blighty yr' bludger!

by **MALC** » April 20, 2011, 9:28 pm

dont forget they have justin

by **trekkertony** » April 21, 2011, 5:30 am

TB
I can only speak to the system within QLD and the answer is yes, there is a full halal system in place.

There is no provision for kosher style meals.

Visiting chaplains meet the interested prisoners in class rooms

Today is D Day with the High Court to sit and determine the validity of chaplains in the public school system

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