Venomous Snakes of Udon Thani

Michael C wrote:That snake is Dryocalamus, a Bridle Snake, a completely harmless snake. There are two species that it could be, but it would take a closer examination of the snake to get the identification to the species, which is either Dryocalamus davisonii (Common Bridle Snake) or Dryocalamus subannulatus (Malayan Bridle Snake). There is yet another snake that looks similar to it in our area Lycodon fasciatus (Yellow Banded Wolf Snake), which has a heavier body and could be easily mistaken as a krait . Lycodon fasciatus is the species that LA probably saw.

many thanks Michael C

the photo above of that snake can easily crawl in to your house coming through the front door but under it not through it so what is the answer if your home is ground level ? my reply is get your self interlocking threshold that should keep them out but what about sliders they can squeeze through the sides
BTW is what I have for front doors maybe I will get a mongoose keep it in front of the door
if it gone the next morning I know a python got it
I also heard if you keep ducks around the house snakes don't come that does not seem possible to me but I am open to information

farang wrote:bit off topic , but...

can you tell me what this snake is? have lot of them in garden( and much bigger ones) in koh samui

thanks

Saw one like this last week except it was a bright green color. Wife ran in and said this snake was up a tree and wanted me to get rid of it. Went outside and knocked the snake out of the tree. It took off like a rocket. Never saw a snake move this fast. Cornered it and was trying to flip it outside with a long stick when the wife came rushing past with a hoe and smacked it in the head. Stone dead. It had a tiny head, very thin body with tongue flicking. Thought it was probably a nonpoisonous tree snake.

Well, you guys opened a can of snakes, er, worms, with this topic so I get to tell my favorite Thailand snake tales. While working at Ramasun when it was Tent City back in 1967, our Thai minibus driver came up with a baby cobra somehow and it got loose in the minibus. Lunchtime came and word spread amongst the workers so we all piled into the sedan that we also had. No one bothered telling our supervisor, Ken *****, who was disliked by the workers so he got into the minibus with the driver and off they went down the road. No one got bit but the supervisor was pretty pissed after lunch when he saw the Thai driver removing all of the seats from the minibus before catching the critter. Heard later that Ramasun was built on a Cobra swamp.

Another time, we were going up a hill in the minibus to one of our tropospheric comm sites near Sattahip when we ran across and over a snake that stretched all the way across the two lane road. All these years I was under the impression that the snake was a King Cobra but after reading in here I guess it might have been a python. Whatever, it just continued across the road into the brush.

Then there was the night that I stomped on a two-headed krait at the bottom of the steps in my bungalow.....

Polehawk, there are two bright green snakes that can be found around the Udon Thani area, other than the green tree vipers that were pictured. If it is not the green tree vipers pictured, it is not dangerous. Both of the others are rear fanged, but their venom is so weak, it will not cause any harm to humans, other than a little swelling, like from a bee sting (if that much).

This is Chysopelea ornata (Golden Tree Snake or Flying Snake).

The snake pictured was just on the other side of the Udon Thani-Nong Bua Lamphu boundary. It is often referred to as a 'Flying Snake' because it often springs from branch to branch and it has a limited ability to glide by spreading its ribs to increase air resistance. It is a very fast snake with an exceptional climbing ability; keels on the ventral scales allow it to grip surfaces that most other species would not be able to. It is among the most common snakes in Thailand. There have been a couple trying to gain entry into my home in Pathum Thani.

This is Ahaetulla prasina (Oriental Whip Snake)

This snake is found throughout Thailand is is very common, but because it is almost always in the bushes and matches in so well, not many people see it. It can move fast, but usually moves rather slowly through the bushes waving its body from side to side to mimic branches moving from side to side from a breeze flowing through the bushes.

Snakes in Trees....No Thank You...
Great Photo of The Oriental whip Snake, by the way, the colourings and patterns on all these snakes are fantastic ...but would it be so menacing if it was pink with long eye-lashes i wonder.. .

(Look forward to more photos as and when Micheal.C)

beer monkey wrote:...but would it be so menacing if it was pink with long eye-lashes i wonder.. .

There are snakes that are very close to that description, like this venomous Bothriechis sp. (Eyelash Viper) from Central America:
http://www.whozoo.org/Intro2000/shawlou ... _3523C.JPG

Couldn't get to view on that link due to copyright....but searched one out...although not pink...it had pointy eyelashes....Bright yellow and white markings.

No.....same same head though and the above is a shade of pink, but i will retract my earlier post asking about pink ones with eyelashes not being so menacing...they are all menacing, with their little eyes...all i think is what they are thinking..and that is they are watching me to see if i make the first move and when to sink its fangs into my delicate skin...maybe if think tooo mutt.

I think its the not knowing what they will do next and how fast they can do it...and we can only go by what we have seen on the TV.

Michael C., the Ahaetulla prasina (Oriental Whip Snake) looks like the snake we saw in the tree in our garden. Same bright green color and very fast. We have a high wall around our property so guessing it came in under the garage door or maybe even climbed up and over the wall if that's possible. Thanks for the photos. Glad to hear it was probably non-poisonous, too.

What I am seeing here, a lot of these snakes look a like to me. some are venomous snakes, some are not but look similar. so what is the best proceedre to identify these thing if your bitten and feel adverse effects. Assuming the treatment will be different for different snakes.

I also assume these critters will kill dogs as well. One guy I know here has Ginny Hen running loose in his yard, messy but he say they stop snakes. I know farmers in the Califorinia Desert used Peacocks to ke rettlres away and they swear by them.

Another guy has told me if yuo have bird nests in your trees you will have snakes. He raised qauils here for a while and stopped because of the snake problems.

Polehawk, Ahaetulla can actually be moved by hand, by very slowly moving the hand underneath, lifting them up (not grabbing) with an open hand and moving them to where you want to move them. Forcibly grabbing them or smacking them will cause a defensive reaction.

Git, since fangs are a great deal larger than the other teeth, you should be able to see that you were bitten by a venomous snake from the bite mark, then you could go with the venomous identification. If you are bitten by a venomous snake, seek medical attention immediately. Some bites do not react immediately and most people react to the venom differently, so do not wait until it is too late.

Yes, venomous snakes can kill dogs and faster since there is not so much body mass. Some birds will go after snakes, but the larger snakes will eat the birds.

If you have many birds nesting in trees, you probably will have some snakes in the trees. Most of the really dangerous ones in our area are terrestrial. The green tree vipers look really dangerous, but they are not as bad as most of them.

Mike the green one look like the snake that crawled inside my engine compartment under the hood so I started the engine to kill it but evidently it escaped because I did not see any body parts or blood on the walls of my engine compartment how I knew it was there it was so skinny his head came out from under the hood now I do want to say I don't like killing them but this was in the parking garage and I feared it would bite some one if left alone since there is no food for it to eat

Saw above snake(s) several times in our garden, about one meter long at most I would guess, somewhat grey color on top side but quite clear yellow or very light green on the sides (longitudal marking). Quite often they 'stand up' a little, lifting there head and part of their body above the grass.

They are active in daytime, so I presume they are not dangerous, I'll just keep out of their path and let them crawl along, they seem to live in the grass or bushes, at least never saw them climb.