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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Irish Alan » May 28, 2009, 10:16 pm

I hope for that money he gets something done with his hair. What is that, the village idiot look?

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beer monkey wrote:
Irish Alan wrote:Nice to see his heart is in it and he is not one of those mercenary types.

Ribery is holding out for a bumper £125,000-a-week salary AFTER tax but Chelsea are reluctant to offer more than £90,000 a week.


#-o #-o #-o


Thats a Ridiculous sum... More Like Highway Ribery.....Image


Good one... =D> =D> =D>
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby stattointhailand » May 29, 2009, 4:18 pm

It has just hit the news that Hull have been charged with fielding an unregistered player at the end of January '09.
Apparently when they signed Kamil Zayatte from Young Boys for £2.5M on 23 January this year, there had been some irregularities with the transfer and he was not formerly registered when Hull drew 2-2 with West Brom. West Brom have been awarded 3 points for that game instead of 1 but it has made no difference to them, they are still relegated.
However Hull have been stripped of their point, which puts them on the same points as Newcastle but with a poorer goal difference.
Newcastle have complained immediately and if their claim is upheld, Hull will be relegated retrospectively and the Toon will stay up!
















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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Irish Alan » May 30, 2009, 3:43 am

A taxing time in prospect for Arshavin

By MARY HANNIGAN

WHEN, last month, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced a new 50p top rate of tax for those earning more than £150,000-a-year – it comes in next April - we worried for Premier League footballers and how the increase would impact on their lifestyles.

Arsenal’s Andrey Arshavin, according to the Daily Mail, is worried too, even before the 50p rate comes in, revealing that “certain nuances” have emerged regarding British taxation that he’s not happy about, ie he has to pay it.

Arshavin has asked the club to renegotiate his £80,000-a-week contract, which he signed in January, because he has been “unpleasantly surprised” by how much of it is hoovered up in tax. “I’m getting less money than I expected,” he explained, “it’s not critical, but I still need to put it right. My agent is now taking care of it.

“My advice to other Russian players who may move to England in the summer is . . . it is important to understand clearly and in detail what money you are going to get and what taxes to pay, so that there are no unpleasant surprises of the kind I am facing now.”

Cristiano Ronaldo, meanwhile, faces a tax increase of £670,000 next year, on his £125,000-a-week wages, with the paper noting – a touch mischievously, if you ask us – that the top tax rate in Spain is only 25 per cent.

Mind you, Switzerland would be an even better option.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0525/1224247322995.html
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby beer monkey » May 30, 2009, 5:30 am

Why don't they just play for £149999 per year...then they won't have to winge or worry about it...Simple when you know how..Image
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Irish Alan » May 30, 2009, 5:58 am

Fat chance BM... They want that kind of money per week now!

Bob Paisley:
"This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool FC if they asked me to."

The days of this are long gone.
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby beer monkey » May 30, 2009, 6:01 am

Ludicrous amounts of money....how did it get to this stage...?
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby saint » May 30, 2009, 7:05 am

beer monkey wrote:Ludicrous amounts of money....how did it get to this stage...?
the formation of the premier league , and murdocks T V revenues ...... :( :( :( :( clubs like man utd , chelsea , liverpool , and arsenal that buy success didnt help either . then theres greedy players and thier managers .
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Brian Davis » May 30, 2009, 7:49 am

I just wonder if the Premier League might implode sooner or later?

In the interim, maybe fans who don't automatically take the easy route of supporting the big boys, will laugh themselves silly when occasionally, very occasionally, they get turned over the likes of Accrington Stanley. \:D/ (No offence Accrington Stanley. I'd rather support you than the big teams.)

Oh and BM, your avatar should be censored! :lol:
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby BobHelm » May 30, 2009, 11:05 am

Southampton fans will be delighted if their favourite son takes them over. I hope he has more success than Shearer at Newcastle...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 074382.stm

I realise that the FA think they must do something when a club goes into receivership. But, I thought that Southampton completed all their games (so no need to 'take away' results against them). Also penalising the 'new' club 10 points seem excessive to me. It was the old owners that did the dirty & they get away unpunished... New owners are going to be put off with the prospect of fighting a relegation battle before the season even starts...
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Galee » May 30, 2009, 11:40 am

Brian Davis wrote:I just wonder if the Premier League might implode sooner or later?

In the interim, maybe fans who don't automatically take the easy route of supporting the big boys, will laugh themselves silly when occasionally, very occasionally, they get turned over the likes of Accrington Stanley. \:D/ (No offence Accrington Stanley. I'd rather support you than the big teams.)


Brian, you seem to have a problem with supporters of successful clubs. I seem to recollect a similar post a while back. Some of us have been supporting our clubs for a long time before they became successful.
Say for example Crystal Palace were bought out by a rich Arab oil sheik. He invested billions in the club and they won the Premiership and the European Championship. Would you continue to support them? or would you you turn your back on them. What would you say to other supporters who said you have taken the easy route of supporting a big team?
I can understand your frustration at the fans who jump ship every other year to be with the in vogue team, but at least give us die hard long term fans a little bit of respect.
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby saint » May 30, 2009, 12:54 pm

i only hope that le gods group is successful in the takeover of S F C . what the club needs more than anything right now is a chairman who only has the clubs best interest at heart and maybe some spending money . there will be no doubt in any southampton fans mind that matty is that person . he has proved on many occasions that he has the clubs life blood running through his viens , on the pitch and since the end of his playing days . i can only put him in the same category as shearer in his footballing skills , certainly not in the same category for his undivided love and loyalty to this once great but unfashionable club . but in shearers defence he is a geordie and newcastle has always been his love !!! and whist at S F C he was a loyal and gifted player . in fact i would go so far as to say he was indeed the best player i have ever seen with his back to goal !!! no doubt in my mind that le god will give everything he has to the club , and if he fails , it will not be because he has shirked anything , this has got to be the best news the fans could of ever dreamed of . :D :D :D :D
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Brian Davis » May 30, 2009, 3:18 pm

Galee wrote:Brian, you seem to have a problem with supporters of successful clubs.


Fair point, Galee, and apologies if I’ve tended to generalise over the supporters of now successful, big clubs. I THINK we’re actually singing the same chant (perhaps you don’t agree) and, yes, I have the greatest respect for fans who have really supported their Club for years, particularly before success came along. I appreciate your anger, if I suggested you took the easy route.

But, correct me if I’m wrong, Chelsea have always been considered a ‘biggish’ Club, haven’t they? So, I recall them slipping down to the old division 2 years back, but from my boyhood years(aaaggghhh 50 years ago now), IF you wanted to follow a Club more likely to win than lose, in South London at least, you’d pick Chelsea over Fulham(until recently), Charlton, Millwall and Palace. Of course, in recent years, Chelsea hardly ever lose! I know it will sound stupid, but personally to me to go along to a game expecting and almost certain to win is rather boring. I’m sorry if I’m repeating my previous posts, but you have to know what it’s like to lose to really enjoy winning. I suggest fans who latch on to teams in line to win something every year, can’t possibly relate to the euphoria of fans of lesser teams actually reaching a Cup Final, or winning promotion.

So, I understand your Arab with millions example. Being honest, I recall the time when Palace had money to burn, buying Nigel Martyn, then the most expensive’keeper ever. But, almost inevitably, I also remember things going pear-shaped, Palace going into administration. Then, I believe only through their love and close ties with the Club, fans raised over £1 million, then a lot of money. Not that I ever really grasp financial workings, but when times continued difficult, fans actually funded the purchase of players, Gary O’Reilly for example (who scored in FA Cup Final against Man U) and helped the Academy scheme. So times move on, but it does rather contrast with a Russian billionaire buying success.

It’s all about money now, but I’m very sure that even if Palace did ‘rise to the heights’, fans would hope never to lose the local, family feel of the Club. I sat next to the same people for years, recognised faces because it never became too big and impersonal. I just feel at the Big Boys, you’re likely to find a different face next to you each week, probably on a tour package. Perhaps unfair to cite Asia, but through TV, media, tours, people are invariably 'loyal fans' :sleepy: of the big clubs, without a clue as to the emotions associated with supporting a lesser team in England.

Forgive my ramblings. We may not agree on everything, but think we can say we feel a special link with our respective teams.
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Galee » May 30, 2009, 3:39 pm

Brian Davis wrote: I appreciate your anger, if I suggested you took the easy route.


Brian, no anger here. A good topic to discuss maturely and sensibly. :D
Enjoyed reading your reply and understand where your coming from. Coming from Kent the team, other than you know who, that I followed closely were Gillingham. Lots of disappointments there. :(
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby beer monkey » May 30, 2009, 4:04 pm

Do you think if supporters stopped buying the over-priced tickets and merchandise the wages would come back down to earth...i know it won't happen but i reckon it would work, no gate revenue would be a big loss.
I know its all run as a business today but....
Is anyone really worth that amount of money per week..?
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Re: Football (Soccer) Rumours

Postby Galee » May 30, 2009, 4:29 pm

You do wonder how much longer it can go on for. The top clubs seem immune to the recent World Financial crises and carry on regardless. What does annoy me is people like Winston Bogarde at Chelsea. He was on the books for 3 years 10 months and was paid 8,240,000.00 pounds for 4 appearances in that time.

Link here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 589245.ece

I think it's an ever perpetuating problem, because to be successful you have to be in Europe and clubs like Madrid and Barcs are in even more in debt.
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