very short lived marriage

by **MALC** » June 23, 2009, 2:07 pm

yes vlad ur spot on

by **jackspratt** » June 23, 2009, 2:15 pm

vlad, not presuming to answer on saint's behalf (I am sure he will do so himself), but one big similarity I can see between a western and a Thai woman is that they are both looking for security.

The difference is if the man does a runner, or the marriage otherwise breaks down, the farang woman's security is knowing she is likely to get 50% +/- of the man's assets.

For the Thai woman, her security is the things you mention above eg gold, house, car. And no doubt, they have all probably heard stories about the farang boyfriend/husband p1ssing off on them, just as the opposite does occur.

In addition, there seems to be greater competition amongst the Thai women for status ie bigger, newer etc.

As in any romance, one should set the boundaries early, so that if the relationship does develop, there are minimal surprises to the other party.

edit: I now see that saint has already responded

by **beer monkey** » June 23, 2009, 2:44 pm

In addition, there seems to be greater competition amongst the Thai women for status ie bigger, newer etc.

Thai males included...a very much Thai Thing allround,... i'm better than youuuuu hoooo.

by **vlad** » June 23, 2009, 3:04 pm

yes BM the response i expected i got this you not met what i met blah blah kinda think the saint is on a crusade to prove we are in the wrong for thinking thai fems love you for yourself and not for what you got. Fair play to him if he has a good 1 but we all know they are few on the groundlike that. Just out of interest saint where did you meet your thai wife ??

by **Ter** » June 23, 2009, 3:06 pm

I think most points are valid but the only d1ckhead is the numpty who got took the cleaners in the story.
With regard to thai gold digging, this is a monster created by daft falang throwing money around, trying to be the big one over several decades, continuing to this day, so to me it serves no point in blaming thai people.

by **vlad** » June 23, 2009, 3:21 pm

Yes fair point Ter but for the relative virgin to the LOS the ist lesson you need to know is that a farang and his money are easy to sepperate when it is a pretty cute backward ?? girl from issan. I doubt it will happen on here but who would you blame Ter if you had everything 1 week, then as soon as you have to return to your home country your possestions are binned and you get the phone call ''me not want youanymore ok''. I would be pissed off with the thai i trusted. We also know these incidents happen a lot. At least in blighty you have an idea something isnt write between you and your better half but in thailand seems your not in a posistion to be ready for it or your helpless to there actions. And you end up with a broken dream no house, no wife, and no cash. How many times truthfully have we heare'd this happening.

by **Ter** » June 23, 2009, 3:32 pm

Vlad, I understand what you are saying, for my part I took my time in choosing and have no regrets.
When I first came to thailand I lived on Phi Phi and soon realized that if I got involved with a girl from there and then changed my mind i would have to leave there. I leaned this as I was brought up on an Island, Because of that maybe I did not fall into the trap many fall into. It also gave me a chance to watch others ( many sensible blokes ) turn to idiots overnight and would not listen to reason, so I took my time.
To be honest vlad as life goes on taking your time on most things is the way to go imo.

by **vlad** » June 23, 2009, 3:55 pm

Yes Ter why have a glass of orange when you can have a glass of champers and i believe that everything comes to those who wait. Dont get me wrong i got stung like all the newbies And i think i can speak from experiance.

Ive seen men come apart at the seams over a b/g. And how many times have we hear'd mine is diff i never met her in a bar. Its a fair bet that the female you meet in europe will not have a few sponsers somewhere around the world. sending her cash. Unlike most thai girls and men who do not acknowlege this fact are in denial.
There is 1 overwhelming factor and that is most thai females want to marry farrang because they have been told in the village that, that is what the need to do. Like all good apprentiships they have a good record once out of there time.

by **jackspratt** » June 23, 2009, 4:47 pm

vlad you seem to have a pretty good handle on the shortcomings of Thai women, and it would also seem, the attractions of the European variety.

That raises the very obvious question - why are you (apparently) still interested in the sponsor generating, "pretty cute backward ?? girl from issan"?

Can you acknowledge that a number (?many) of us:

1. have never been burnt by a Thai woman
2. have our eyes open, and have from day 1
3. are in long-term, happy, (relatively) hassle-free, and mutually beneficial relationships?

by **vlad** » June 23, 2009, 6:49 pm

Where have I suggested i sponser a backward girl from issan ?? I never said you have all been the victim to a scam i said some have, the backward issan girls i mentioned have better mobile phones and i-pods than i have so there not that backward are they jack. The top scammers are from issan fact. I will let you into a little secret jack i want a thai wife i dont want a european wife but like Ter says i will wait till i feel the time is right and not simply fall for the 1st one i meet. but i have a feeling i will be waiting a long time for that bus.

by **RALPHCUSENS** » June 23, 2009, 8:25 pm

vlad wrote:Having read the last few post's I get the impression that Saint is either blinkere'd or not in the same thailand as the others.
Yes Saint i live in the Uk and yes there are a lot of divorce's at the moment but they are divorcing because of the struggle with rising unemployment and house reposestions.
I am a relative new member to the map but i would rather read post's that i can equate to like Izix's and not what the red, yellow, or blue ,shirts are upto.
Can you answear me a few basic question, like when you meet a thai girl why does she presume you will buy her gold, why when you go to dinner does she go for the most expensive dish , why does she want more than her freinds ie a better house a better car a better area to live away from the moo ban. In good old blighty yes you do want a nice home and a nice car but your not dragged off to the nearest gold shop because her friend have nice gold bought by her tilac and she does not. Are you getting my drift yet saint. In a nutshell thai woman are diff to western woman when it come's to basic comodities.

Let me if I may, reply to your above post, I can assure you that Saint is not blinkered, neither is he living in another Thailand than the others, so, your living in the UK, how long have you spent in Thailand, living full time in the community?

You admit that the divorce rate is on the up at this time in the UK, and you put that down to the present economic climate, the Thais have always had it hard!!!!

If you consider izzix's posts to be interesting, good for you, I can gain exactly the same information from a news paper, he very very rarely passes any comment on his cut & paste posts!!!

I will now give you my answers to the questions you posed, which were:

Why do Thai Ladies:

a. presume that you will buy them gold;;;; You are mixing with the wrong type!!!

b. Why do they always pick the most expensive things on the menu;;;; Answer as above!!!

c Why do they want a better house, car and live in a better area;;;; Answer as above!!!

Are you getting my drift yet vlad, in a nutshell, Thai women are the same as any women anywhere in the world, if you go to a junk yard, you will find junk, but even then, you can find a gem.

What piss$s me off is those posters that do nothing but slag off all Thai women, there are good and bad everywhere!!!

I will give you my personal situation,

Married to a teacher,

She owned her house before we met.

She has NEVER asked for Gold, other than a wedding ring.

Lives, and wishes to remain living in a Moo Ban.

She contributes nearly the same towards the household expenses as I do.

I am convinced, that if our marriage were to go bad, it would be of my doing, not hers!!!!

It is also my considered opinion, that the Thai women that are opportunist, are only that way because of the gullible farangs , that have set a bad precedence and that minority now expect the same.

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY (and the gullible) ------ A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED ](*,)

by **jackspratt** » June 23, 2009, 9:03 pm

vlad wrote:Where have I suggested i sponser a backward girl from issan ?? I never said you have all been the victim to a scam i said some have, the backward issan girls i mentioned have better mobile phones and i-pods than i have so there not that backward are they jack. The top scammers are from issan fact. I will let you into a little secret jack i want a thai wife i dont want a european wife but like Ter says i will wait till i feel the time is right and not simply fall for the 1st one i meet. but i have a feeling i will be waiting a long time for that bus.

Good luck to you both, vlad.

by **Laan Yaa Mo** » June 23, 2009, 9:09 pm

The stuff that Vlad is rattling on about to denigrate Thais, in particular Isaan women, is known as 'keeping up with the neighbours' in Canada and the United States.

Thus, if so-and-so on the block in Toronto gets a new tv or car you can rest assured that the nearby homes and driveways will be stocked with that item, or a superior one, within a month.

Yeah, I know there is a 'my farang is better than your farang' competition among some women married to farangs in Thailand (this is not exclusive to Isaan), and is partly driven, as some posters have noted, by the farangs who have the financial wherewithal to toss money around to buy the most expensive transportation, home, jewels et al. This is one reason it is usually a good idea to stay away from moo baans with many farangs married to Thai/Isaan women. The 'keeping up with the neighbours' syndrome kicks in with a great deal of seriousness in these areas.

The Saint, Khun Spratt, Ralph, BKKSTAN and quite a few others on Udonmap seem to understand the dynamics of the situation very well.

by **beer monkey** » June 23, 2009, 9:17 pm

vlad wrote:I will let you into a little secret jack i want a thai wife i dont want a european wife but like Ter says i will wait till i feel the time is right and not simply fall for the 1st one i meet. but i have a feeling i will be waiting a long time for that bus.

I would spend as much time in Thailand as possible Vlad, unless you are going the t'internet route, either way a good one will come along sooner than you think.

by **RALPHCUSENS** » June 23, 2009, 9:25 pm

beer monkey wrote:
vlad wrote:I will let you into a little secret jack i want a thai wife i dont want a european wife but like Ter says i will wait till i feel the time is right and not simply fall for the 1st one i meet. but i have a feeling i will be waiting a long time for that bus.

I would spend as much time in Thailand as possible Vlad, unless you are going the t'internet route, either way a good one will come along sooner than you think.

The only problem there for those with a preconceived idea that all Thai Ladies are scammers, is how will they be able to strike up a meaningful relationship, when they can't trust them #-o