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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby thedude » February 28, 2010, 2:48 pm

Cool! Cheers, douglas.

OK, while I'm at it, all you fan experts - and I know there are many! - what is the deal with the "natural" setting, and who uses it?

Same with "Feel" or "Auto" setting on AC remote - while I'm at it - what's the deal? Anyone use these, know, or care?

Ta - Dude
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby douglas » February 28, 2010, 4:15 pm

Hi dude.
The natural setting automatically alters the speed of the fan so you do not get a continuous speed all the time, it varies like the speed of the natural wind. At least that is what happened when I just checked mine.
Cheers Doug.
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby rickfarang » March 1, 2010, 2:13 am

The "natural setting" is what they used to call "Fuzzy logic setting" a decade ago (after the "Fuzzy Logic" craze back in those days. It drive me nuts!

The fan blowing on me now has been blowing on me for the last nine)+ years. Its made by Toshiba. Yes, i have bad to lubricate the motor shaft three or four times over that period, but its the best and longest lasting fan that I ever owned, including those in the U.S.

Stan, your friend can buy himself a nice floor-standing fan for less than a couple thousand baht and not worry about his landloard. my two cents worth.
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby martynsnowman » March 1, 2010, 10:21 am

sorry if little off subject , but does any1 know where i can buy 1 of the floor fans that give off a fine spray of water .
i,ve seen then being used in a few places and a bar or 2 .
i,ve tryed tesco and home pro ,
any help any1 ???
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby papaguido » March 1, 2010, 2:56 pm

martynsnowman wrote:sorry if little off subject , but does any1 know where i can buy 1 of the floor fans that give off a fine spray of water .
i,ve seen then being used in a few places and a bar or 2 .
i,ve tryed tesco and home pro ,
any help any1 ???


Macro, I believe I saw two models the high end was 25,000bt (approx)
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Re: Electrician info, fan noise

Postby thedude » March 1, 2010, 3:16 pm

Cheers for the tips on my fan - think I got it: Strip 'er down, take out the shaft, lubricate well with 3-in-1 or WD40, same for balls so they don't race over each other & get too hot, re-insert, and use natural setting if varied speed preferred; otherwise, normal setting at 1/2/3 if steady blowing desired.

If this doesn't work, or fan still is making too much noise, grab rubber mallet and knock bottom. Hopefully not caked with dried hair, dirt, and whatnot, or may be better to just go out and buy a new one. Should be available for under 2K in Udon, I gather, though selection somewhat limited here.

Anyway, will give it a whirr tonight and see how she goes. Nice hot day today to get out the ole tool and get to work.

Thanks again, fellas.
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby rickfarang » March 1, 2010, 5:08 pm

If you are going that route, I suggest using a heavier oil. Something like 3-in-1 might be right, but with WD-40, you might have to repeat the prcedure very soon.
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby BkkBill » March 2, 2010, 11:34 am

Really best to use white car door hinge grease. The lighter oils just don't last.
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby mortiboy » March 2, 2010, 11:55 am

Has anyone noticed after a while, the fan ceases to turn unless switch on fast speed first, then switch to slow speed?
I think the spindle gets gummed up with caked oil.
I sometimes wonder best just clean the spindle,and leave it dry!
I regularly put small amount of WD 40 .I think thicker oil just collects the dust and cakes up
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby rickfarang » March 2, 2010, 1:40 pm

That's similar to the symptom I had with the Toshiba fan. After that phase, it would refuse to run each morning until it sat in the "on" position for a few minutes (probably warming up the oil). But oiling it gets it going again.

I used a light spray oil like WD-40 and it wasn't long before the motor shaft needed another oiling. I switched back to "Signal Oil" -as is sold around town, its in the small white squeeze bottle and made to resemble Singer sewing Machine Oil. Its a little heavier than the spray oil and the fan runs daily for a year or two after each oiling with it. The same 10 baht bottle has lasted all these years.
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby parrot » March 4, 2010, 7:21 pm

Makro's flyer shows a water fan for 3999 which is about 15,000 baht cheaper than I've seen before. Don't know the details/quality. Sale continues through the 10-ish of March
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby hangsaboot » March 28, 2010, 4:32 am

Ainzo wrote:I remember, it's been a long time when my friend encountered this problem. His ceiling fan produced unnecessary sound, or it is noisy. Fortunately, they consult to the electrician, what is the cause of this problem, and the electrician said you installed it improperly, and we will are trying to reinstall it.


reverse the polarity at the electrical connection block, on the fan .
it then should rotate in the opposite direction ....

ohmn law ,, wear ear plugs
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby mortiboy » March 28, 2010, 8:56 am

I am no electrician, But With A/C current it will still go in same direction!
If It was D/C current yes.
Anyway reversing the direction would be sending air opposite direction.....Yes?
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby hangsaboot » March 28, 2010, 5:34 pm

yep , that is the reason , to reverse the direction of rotation of the fan blades ,, aero dynamics .
maybe this is what is causing the whining noise ..
worn bearings , normally make more of a mechanical noise .

on 3 phase A.C. motors that are jammed ,, the polarity is often reversed ,
changing the direction of rotation , thus unploking .
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Re: Electrician info,fan noise

Postby bluejets » March 28, 2010, 7:02 pm

hangsaboot wrote:
Ainzo wrote:I remember, it's been a long time when my friend encountered this problem. His ceiling fan produced unnecessary sound, or it is noisy. Fortunately, they consult to the electrician, what is the cause of this problem, and the electrician said you installed it improperly, and we will are trying to reinstall it.


reverse the polarity at the electrical connection block, on the fan .
it then should rotate in the opposite direction ....

ohmn law ,, wear ear plugs

Sorry, not correct. Fan is ac and contains two windings, one for start and one for run. Coupled together with a capacitor. To reverse requires cutting into the windings and reversing connections of one winding in relation to the other. Some fans often have a switch to do the job mounted on the side of the motor frame. Commonly called summer and winter. In winter the idea was to reverse and so pull cold air from below and replace with warm air from above.
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