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Re: asbestos in Thailand: SCAREY

Postby wazza » July 14, 2010, 10:09 am

U cant warrant or justify a product that is dangerous when its broken down, damaged with poor controls in place to protect the population.
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Re: asbestos in Thailand: SCAREY

Postby cookie » January 21, 2011, 4:49 pm

more news on the use of asbestos in Thailand:

their seems to be a plan to finally ban asbestos in Thailand, but as always.......
this sounds again too good to be true,
bribes will be paid!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011/01/21/business/Planned-asbestos-ban-a-boon-to-SCG-tile-maker-clai-30146864.html


Planned asbestos ban a boon to SCG, tile maker claims
By Nalin Viboonchart
The Nation
Published on January 21, 2011

A maker of concrete roof tiles yesterday protested against the move to ban chrysotile asbestos from roofing sheets over health concerns, claiming most manufacturers would be driven out of business while Siam Cement Group was expected to be the only one to benefit.


If the government decides to ban asbestos, many makers including Oran Vanich will close their plants and 5,000-6,000 workers will lose their jobs,


more excuses :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

"So far, there are no scientific findฌings that prove that Thais who have died from mesothelioma died from a disease caused by asbestos. So why do we have to change to benefit the minority, and force most Thais who are poor to use the expensive products?"



Vithaya Kulsomboon, director of pharmaceutical sciences at Chulalongkorn University, and a member of NESAC, said 57 countries and territories, including all of Europe, Japan, Australia and Hong Kong, have banned asbestos from roof tiles.


why do you think this was done???? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Although there is no proof in Thailand that asbestos in roof tiles causes mesothelioma, a rare form of cancer, other countries have evidence and class the mineral as a dangerous substance.


:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: asbestos in Thailand: SCAREY

Postby wazza » January 21, 2011, 5:18 pm

Cookie

a good post

1 reason why they have no evidence is that the "poor" people who get this tragic disease, cant afford the tests etc, they just accept a nasty X ray from a small clinic that i bet is reported as normal pulmonary carcinoma, treated as such and a rapid decline in their health.

Is mesothelioma a reportable occupational disease in Thailand ??

Ask James Hardy Industries from Australia, what asbestos does in the construction industry. They have lost every court battle so far and moved their business to tax havens to reduce their liabilty for compensation.

As you have suggested, Oran Vanich wont need to move off shore, they will just pay the environmental inspectors.

i would love to do a thesis on their current and past workers and their health backgrounds. I bet i would be in the ground quicker than the workers !
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Re: asbestos in Thailand: SCAREY

Postby goodybags » January 24, 2011, 1:45 am

I was shocked to see Thailand is still using Asbestos widespread in their buildings
but thinking about it not really suprised, think about Thai way
(as I look out in the morning I see the ritual burning of the rubish in the school)
How's that to educate the future generation on being green..dont start me on packaging here in LOS
today bought 3 apples in market,each apple shrink wrapped in flexi polystyrine sleeve then shrink wrapped in a polystrine tray,then pot in a polythene bag!
...sorry back to the subject!

Mesothelioma is a trully horrible type of cancer!

My brother died from it in his early 40's,It took his life within 2 years of diagnosis,
Even though he fought it and had every treatment available, It seems to take a hold
and its just a case of trying to prolong life as long as possible.

wifes uncle here in Thailand is a roofer/ceiling fitter,
so need to speak to him and find out what he is working with.
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Re: asbestos in Thailand: SCAREY

Postby BobHelm » January 24, 2011, 11:08 am

The Bangkok Post on line are currently running a 'yes/no' poll on 'Should Thailand ban the import / sales of asbestos?'.
I am glad to see that 88% are in favour of the ban, but must admit I am puzzled as to how/why 12% would not support it.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/poll/1563/sh ... -for-story

A click on the 'Story' link is worth a read...
Uran Kleosakul, marketing director of Oranvanich Co, the producer of Oran roof tiles, said that 70% of all roof tiles were made of asbestos

Horrific news, if actually true..

Thailand last year imported 69,000 tonnes of asbestos from Russia and Canada. Prices are currently around US$400 per tonne compared with $300 three to four years ago due to increased demand in China, Brazil and Russia.

In Thailand, about 90% of the asbestos sold goes into roof tiles and cement pipes. The rest goes into the production of brakes and clutches, vinyl floor tiles, gaskets and heat-insulating materials.
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Re: asbestos in Thailand: SCAREY

Postby FrazeeDK » January 24, 2011, 8:02 pm

ooof bad news... ever watched the contractors putting up a CPAC tile roof?? Hand rotary cutters for the most part with lots of dust blowing around.. If CPAC does indeed have asbestos, any house building worker that is around the tiles when cut or doing the kwat broom sweeping up the mess could certainly inhale the asbestos floating around in the air....
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Re: asbestos in Thailand: SCAREY

Postby BobHelm » January 24, 2011, 8:12 pm

I have a feeling Frazee that CPAC may in fact be one of the few products not effected.
If you look at Cookie's piece on 21st. January, in the quotes, the roofing companies are complaining that the banning will leave Siam Cement Group in an unfair advantage. As far as I can gather..
The Concrete and Aggregate Co Ltd, or CPAC, is an affiliate of SCG Cement and the first ready-mixed concrete producer in Thailand


I think it refers more to the roofing sheets that can be bought, rather than tiles - but I am not sure & am happy to be corrected..plus I am not sure that breathing in concrete dust is something any medical practitioner would recommend!!
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