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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by Aardvark » September 5, 2010, 4:09 pm

Amazing how a game like Cricket can end up with a Reputation like Boxing and Horse Racing :shock:



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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by Brian Davis » September 5, 2010, 4:35 pm

pienmash wrote:.......its making me wonder if this spot betting has gone on in other ports maybe betting on if theres a penalty between the 80-90th minute with the bent player pole axing an apposing player in a football match or a player being sent off ......... etc. maybe not in the top flight but lower divisions where the likes of Grimsby and Sheffield Wednesday play !!
Hmmm. Well, I don't want particularly want to link my team with lower divisions :lol: but ....

As a regular 'away' fan, I went to the last league game of the season, only a journey across London as it happened. Palace had nothing to play for, the other lot needed to win to be certain of avoiding relegation. The result 6-0! Palace's heaviest defeat of the season( player sent off and a penalty too). I thought our keeper's performance was, um, 'dodgy' . I've never forgotten either, that in Palace's previous financial problems/administration around that time(we make a habit of it! :roll: ) he was the only player refusing to play because his wages weren't being paid.

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by wazza » September 5, 2010, 4:37 pm

Couple of comments having read the BBC news items quoted over the last 48 hrs.

The individual bank notes with documented serial numbers handed over to the " fixer" have been found in the hands of the 3 players . Thats pretty damming evidence. The high commisioners reply to that - The Pakistan Cricket Council pay their players a 114 GBP per day allowance in cash . ( Does the Pakistani tax department know that ) and maybe thats confusing the issue. so duplicated currency notes means they were paid in counterfeit currency then ? LOL

Comments by some Pakistani commentators that the team has been on tour for nearly 18th months and many dont have bank acounts and carry cash, Ummmmmm did they declare that cash when entering Australia and England , as both countries have currency laws for importation of cash in the sums they are talking about.

The Public Prosecutor when looking at any case, asks the following, would it be reasonable that the accused be found guilty with the evidence presented. I bet ( no pun included ) that these bank notes also had silver nitrate with a suitable DNA trace also on them and the Police Forsensics have also nailed this.

One thing is for sure, their cricketers wont be subject to any ICC random drug tests this year, as you cant take the piss out of the Pakistani's anymore.

Howszat !

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by wazza » September 15, 2010, 6:47 pm

Well it seems that Sky Channel Pakistan has scopped the world for the next years 20/20 series

They will post yesterdays , current days and tomorrows scores all on line 24/7 for all to see.

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by hangsaboot » September 15, 2010, 7:52 pm

Aardvark wrote:Amazing how a game like Cricket can end up with a Reputation like Boxing and Horse Racing :shock:
it,s not the game ,,
it is the slippery slimy paki b-------s
the most untrustworthy people, i have had the mis fortune to meet .

p.s. you can tell when a paki is lying ,
his lips move.

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by MALC » September 15, 2010, 8:02 pm

well look at higgins at snooker.found not guilty of match fixing. but was fined 75 grand baned till nov.if he is not guilty why the fine and ban.i think there is some covering up big time.

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by DermotC » September 15, 2010, 8:10 pm

The fine and ban was oficially for bring the game into disrepute i.e. he never reported being asked to cheat! You hav eto ask yourself why he didnt report it!

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Post by pienmash » September 15, 2010, 8:11 pm

hangsaboot wrote:
Aardvark wrote:Amazing how a game like Cricket can end up with a Reputation like Boxing and Horse Racing :shock:
it,s not the game ,,
it is the slippery slimy paki b-------s
the most untrustworthy people, i have had the mis fortune to meet .

p.s. you can tell when a paki is lying ,
his lips move.
A tadge racist but couldnt agree more , im not on the fence on this one these buggars are as guilty as hell and should get the full punishment , death by stoning would suit this heanus crime But the ragheeds throwing would be paid to throw wides or no balls.

how do you stop a pakki from drowning - take your foot off his head !!

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by hangsaboot » September 15, 2010, 8:14 pm

MALC wrote:well look at higgins at snooker.found not guilty of match fixing. but was fined 75 grand baned till nov.if he is not guilty why the fine and ban.i think there is some covering up big time.
point taken MALC ,
bttopic,,,,, higgins was a paddy , not a paki .
p.s. no racist slur, intended. [-X

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by DermotC » September 15, 2010, 8:19 pm

I think you will find Higgins is British not Irish! No offense taken, imperialist scum, lol!

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by BobHelm » September 15, 2010, 8:36 pm

Would appear that very few sports or countries are immune from it.
From the original Olympic games on. Interesting reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_fixing

On the cricket front I seem to recall a recent South African captain admitting it & several Australian players being done for it. So a slur just directed at Pakistan is probably uncalled for.... :(

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Post by jackspratt » September 15, 2010, 9:20 pm

BobHelm wrote:Would appear that very few sports or countries are immune from it.
From the original Olympic games on. Interesting reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_fixing

On the cricket front I seem to recall a recent South African captain admitting it & several Australian players being done for it. So a slur just directed at Pakistan is probably uncalled for.... :(
Bob if you can remember any Aussie cricketers being done for match fixing, perhaps you ought to name them - because I certainly can't remeber any.

But I do agree the racist slurs are totally unecessary,and probably against forum rules. [-X

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by BobHelm » September 15, 2010, 9:38 pm

Sorry jack they were cleared after a 2 month inquiry.

but
Australian greats Shane Warne and Mark Waugh, fined in 1995 after admitting giving information on ‘the weather’ to an Indian called ‘John the Bookmaker’. The Australian cricket board kept that affair a secret for three years.

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by hangsaboot » September 15, 2010, 9:44 pm

DermotC wrote:I think you will find Higgins is British not Irish! No offense taken, imperialist scum, lol!
thanks dermot for the compliment ,, imo ,, imperialist pig , sounds better . :(
and thanks for enlightening me , to the fact that the greatest,most talented and exiting
snooker player ever , was british . :D :D
i thought he was too good to be irish ,, remembering the colours sequences etc.lol :D

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by Galee » September 15, 2010, 9:54 pm

hangsaboot. Are you your getting your Alex Higgins and John Higgins mixed up?.

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by DermotC » September 15, 2010, 9:56 pm

From memory John Higgins is Scottish! I think in tournaments won the greatest snooker player ever, so far is Stephen Hendry but you may correct me on this.

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by MALC » September 16, 2010, 12:10 am

i did not mean to be racist. in my post.but i admit i am where the.pxxxxx are involved

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by BobHelm » September 18, 2010, 7:52 pm

I had lost interest in the England v Pakistan matches as a sporting event after the News of the World scoop. I personally thought that the best way forward would have been to abandon the rest of the series. Sadly, money talks in cricket as much as any sport & so it was let continue.
Now this
ICC probes Pakistan's victory over England at The Oval
In a statement, Lorgat added: "A source informed The Sun newspaper that a certain scoring pattern would emerge during certain stages of the match and, broadly speaking, that information appeared to be correct.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket ... 011427.stm

OK there needs to be an investigation, but it looks pretty plain to me...Someone tells the Sun "X will happen" before the game. X happens. Either a fluke, or the guy that told the Sun is a predictive genius, or there are a lot of players taking cash to ensure a chain of events happens. I know where my money is!! :(

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by BobHelm » October 6, 2010, 9:21 am

Is this the end of this scandal now?? If writing a fiction book containing the details of this affair the publishers would probably tell you that it was all too far fetched to be anything like believable...
Boss of Croydon Athletic linked to match-fixing dies
David Le Cluse, 44, the chairman of Croydon Athletic Football Club, was found dead with a bullet wound on Saturday, in a garage in Sutton.

The club was probed for suspected money-laundering after its owner Mazhar Majeed was arrested over match-fixing allegations against the Pakistan team.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11464234

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Re: Pakis - Match fixing in England Test

Post by BobHelm » November 2, 2010, 3:45 pm

Two of the Pakistani cricketers involved ( Salman Butt and Mohammad Amir) have been appealing against the provisional ban that was put in place by the IIC until a full inquiry has been completed.
Those appeals have just been rejected & the pair are quoted as saying.
They have no evidence and it appears they are just trying to corner Pakistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket ... 146950.stm

Hopefully the full inquiry will take place soon & a sensible decision reached. However I think that if the Pakistani players are relying on saying it all just been a huge co-incidence then I rather hope they get their just deserts...

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