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two years on and still going against the current?

Long distance relationships, mixed relationships etc...

Postby motasi » February 23, 2008, 1:45 am

cali4995 wrote:Wow, some of this is quite good stuff. You could really write a short guidebook
on girls & finances in Thailand. luckily for me I'm on a budget so my stupidity is
limited. Everyday I have a little gab session with the cleaning ladies at the hotel and they tell me their salary is 4k month. 40-50 year old gals with families.

It looks to me like 8k-10k per month should be more than enough for most girls to live comfortably, and if it's not well, they can go find a Thai man to give them that.
I've been around too many of these girls whose farang just bought them a house and they certainly don't talk about the guy with respect, far from it actually.

If every aspect of the relationship is based on multiple streams of income going to the girl or her family every month, can't imagine that lasting an awfully long-time.
Obviously, if the girl is spending all her time with you she needs living expenses and a little extra, but if they start with those crazy demands, show them the door. :pirate:


Cali, I have noticed this too, and a lot of it, especially the poor guys who are 20-30 years older than their spouses, and mostly, with the guys that are only here part time, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, etc, out of the year.

Even some of the one's that are here 24/7, but can't get "it" up any more.

Women are women, Thai or not, and they do have sexual needs, so there some of these woman that do have Thai boyfriends, and or some other side action, with alternate westerner ATM's.

Some Thai women, (that I know, not all) also want to have a Thai man on the side that will actually understand them, where as a westerner doesn't fill in the intellectual desires as well. Maybe, Thais could be considered by many westerners a sub-culture of sorts, (just an observation) but they are not sub-human beings.

I have a neighbor that just arrived today to see his wife after a year, and her boy friend is a Thai, and just left his house yesterday. She does say good things about her husband, but so many here talk a lot of B.S. about their western husbands. They just tell them what they want to hear, and keep the cash flow going. For some, it's a business. They are not stupid. Also, LOS is still a very underprivileged and developing country, so of course money is an issue. It's not rocket science here.

I also know a Thai women near me about 35 yrs old, house mortgage, car payment, and two teenage daughters. She makes about 10,000 BHT a month, and has no boy friend or husband. She manages OK. Not great, but living.

Cali, you are for sure correct about plenty of research material for a guide book or series of books about Udon, or anywhere else in Thailand.

Some of the things I have seen and heard, I could not make up. No book, TV show, or movie could match the s#!+ I have seen here. Definitely an experience to live here.

I think most guys here, don't really know what goes on behind their backs. I hope they do, but too many are blinded by the illusion of love.

Just in my area there are quite a few westerners, and most of their wives or girl friends do have side action, but I guess these things happen even in the states, or other countries. Desperate house wives are every where.
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Postby Irish Alan » February 23, 2008, 2:06 am

motasi wrote:I think most guys here, don't really know what goes on behind their backs. I hope they do, but too many are blinded by the illusion of love.

Just in my area there are quite a few westerners, and most of their wives or girl friends do have side action, but I guess these things happen even in the states, or other countries. Desperate house wives are every where.


Having been coming here for almost 5 years I am almost embarrassed to say I only learned the word "Gik" (bit on the side) last year. After that the floodgates opened and I was amazed at this gik culture.

I'm sure I've seen this before but what is the right thing to do? I feel that if I tipped off a guy that his wife/girlfriend was playing away from home he wouldn't believe me in the first place. And I'd hate to see how miserable he'd be when the truth came out and the 5hit hits the fan.

Do we turn the other cheek or blow the whistle on her?
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Postby treehugger » February 23, 2008, 2:38 am

Hi Zidane & Irish Alan,

Rugby? Cricket? Tennis? :D Even a good book! :shock:
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Postby motasi » February 23, 2008, 3:00 am

Mr. Alan,

Well, That is one of the questions of the century.

It plagues me daily, not on one occasion, but on many. I suspect many of us feel the same way.

One thing, I do know, is that if one rat's out a Thai woman for whatever reason, one is in for a hell of a ride, if gets back to you. Ya might as well chop off your own penis, throw it in a blender, and drink up.

She will, or they will, (her gangster clan) strike back with fearsome vengeance.

It's like, if you throw a rock at a Thai, they throw back an arsenal of W.M.D.'s.

It might not happen soon after the fact, but it will happen. They will never forget a wrong deal.

What goes around, will come back around, and who knows how many fold.

When a Thai gets pissed, they get pissed the F#$* off, power of a trillion, at least.

It's great to know a few things, but a deep burden to know too much, and as far as some Thais go, we as westerners, are only allowed to know what they want us to know.
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Postby Irish Alan » February 23, 2008, 3:10 am

Worse bit is it is not me that is finding out this news it is my g/f... She seems to be a bit of a "Dear Abby." Even if I wanted to blow the whistle it would fall back on her and I don't want that.
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Postby jetdoc » February 23, 2008, 10:36 am

"Just in my area there are quite a few westerners, and most of their wives or girl friends do have side action, but I guess these things happen even in the states, or other countries. Desperate house wives are every where."

One of my wife's cousins, has Thai husband and two "Gik's" on the side, so the behavior is not exclusive to Thai falang relationships;o)
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Postby Zidane » February 23, 2008, 11:00 am

You could well be right,Alan.My info was from an English guy who used to teach in Chaiyaphum.
Also,one of our sons goes to a local school in Udon opposite the airport.When he first went the headmistress enquired about my availability to teach.I was quoted 30,000 baht per month as my salary.
But as far as the local Thais salaries,it may well be a lot less.

Ah well,its weekend,time for the finer things in life........football,rugby !!
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Postby Zidane » February 23, 2008, 11:23 am

Sorry,getting back on track with the topic now......
As regards whistle blowing,I think that unless it is a very close friend,you say nothing as you are in a no win situation.
But motasi makes a very valid point......If the farang plays away from home then he is in for one hell of a bumpy ride (possibly,without a penis for the rest of his life !!).
I'm sure that in Udon we have all been tempted by some pretty girl wanting to have some sort of relationship with us.But I've never done it,not only because of hurting my wifes feelings but also because Udon is a relatively small city and sooner or later word would get back to your wife/girlfriend and then you would have to keep a 24 hour watch on your bollocks for the rest of your life !!!
I think even in a place like Pattaya you would have to be careful......maybe Bangkok you would be OK.
Getting back to Thai wives who have farang husbands who work away 3-6 months of the year.Once the farang goes its not uncommon to have a Thai man move in and then leave a week or so before thev farang comes home.
Just aint fair is it !! :cry: :cry:

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Postby aznyron » February 23, 2008, 11:35 am

zidane they all get caught sooner or later in most cases it sooner I am not writing this post to give advice since I was accused of giving bad advice but if I lived away from my lady I would not be her b/f and definatly not her husband she would be a sex toy for me without emotional ties and I would of course give her money while I was with her the money stops when I leave been there done that it did not work for me
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Postby cali4995 » February 23, 2008, 11:46 am

Aznyron, give all the advice you want, I'm quite fond of saying dumb-ass stuff myself.
Just give it a little time, I'll start making you look good. :razz: It's all a bit of a mess, I
can't really trust a girl if she has someone else's di_k stuck in her. I'd rather have a girl
who was monogomous but you can't find many like that and $$$ sure doesn't decide that.
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Postby Irish Alan » February 23, 2008, 3:41 pm

jetdoc wrote:One of my wife's cousins, has Thai husband and two "Gik's" on the side, so the behavior is not exclusive to Thai falang relationships;o)


Quite true... My g/f introduced me to a friend of hers in her village. She is married and her husband is currently working in south Korea and dutifully sending home the cash. While he is beavering away, some local stud is beavering away at his wife's beaver!
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