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Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 25, 2011, 8:23 pm

I have been trying to download some updates this afternoon to some programmes on my computer, including C Cleaner, Adobe AIRInstaller and Winamp, but they won't download, or progress beyond the starting notification.

I initially identified them and initiated the downloads through UpdateChecker, using Firefox Browser. The display asks me to confirm I want to download and to confirm "Save". The download box then opens (in Firefox) showing the download progress and speed, but the download then just doesn't progress. It sticks at "Starting". I've tried downloading direct from their various websites, and from Filehippo, but they still won't. I've also tried through Opera browser and now Internet Explorer, both with the same result.

I did some Windows updates earlier today, which worked Ok and the upgrade to Firefox 4.0 this afternoon separately direct through Firefox. The latter worked although was very slow. I can browse and access all my normal websites, - its just the download of the updates to the existing programmes.

Does anyone have any ideas? To the best of my knowledge no one has interfered with my Firewall, indeed I tried to initiate the downloads with the Firewall temporarily turned off and they still didn't work. :?
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby BobHelm » March 25, 2011, 8:33 pm

Since you have done the updates that did work, have you turned off your machine & then turned it back on again??
That is about the only thing I can think of..

If you have then maybe try working through this..
This article describes steps to take if you are unable to download or save file using Firefox.

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Una ... ve%20files
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 25, 2011, 9:16 pm

Yes Bob, I've done a restart and a shut down since, cleared downloads, and run crap cleaner.

I did note when I tried using IE that it told me that Filehippo wasn't cleared to accept downloads from, but I changed/over-rode that and still came to a halt. It makes me wonder whether any of the Windows updates (Vista) I did this morning blocked anything or told my AV programme (ESET) to do so.

I did have a similar problem once before on my desktop PC (XP) when I had accidentally told the Firewall to deny/block a Firefox change. I overcame that by downloading Firefox into a different folder and installing again from there.

I'll work through the suggestions in the link, e.g. change the download destination folder etc.

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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 26, 2011, 10:23 am

Well I still haven't succeeded in resolving this. I changed the download folder and then reset a number of defaults as advised by the link Bob gave, all to no avail. I turned off my Firewall and AV programmes and tried again, still no progress. I tried other browsers and other sources for the downloads, but none progress beyond the initial starting phase.

I did note that the Firefox 4.0 download which took ages, did then turn off a couple of add-ons due to compatibility, though I think I had this problem before then. One of those might have been Flash player. I have noted that videos within a website like BBC wont play, though YouTube will. There maybe a clue in there, though I don't know what it might be. :?
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 26, 2011, 10:31 am

I spotted this in the Firefox Help - Troubleshooting. I don't know if it has anything to do with it:

Direct2D Enabled - Blocked on your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues.
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby LannaJeff » March 26, 2011, 10:43 am

You given it a good virus check yet?

I'd recommend either Ad-Aware (by Lavasoft) or Malwarebytes.

Since it occurs in different browsers, it's probably not your security settings, which would be my first guess.

I'd try giving it some good virus sweeps next.

A System Restore probably won't help.

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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 26, 2011, 10:55 am

After a period of time presumably attempting to read/download the updatefiles, I get this message, following on from the name of the file I am trying to download:

"...could not be saved, because the source file could not be read."

I'll try a AV scan too. It makes me think something has either blocked a port or something like that, - i.e. something is stopping certain types of file downloads.
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby Jed » March 26, 2011, 11:05 am

Try using Right Click, Save Target As, and changing your Download Folder. Sounds like a likely scenario.

See: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Unable_to_sav ... load_files

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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 26, 2011, 11:51 am

Tried that already Jed, and just tried it again directing download to a new folder on the Desktop. It still doesn't progress beyond labeling the file (4kbs).

Note it happens with all browsers. I've done an AV scan - no issues.
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby BobHelm » March 26, 2011, 12:42 pm

I googled problem...
But as a Vista issue (which I am pretty sure it is) rather than FireFox.
I 'time limited' the query to anything in the last month..
Got 1,640,000 hits!!!! Although they don't seem to be much help.

Among the answers (a couple of times)...
I have had this exact same experience. You are not going insane. I found that avg-free was the problem. I uninstalled it and the problem went away. However, when I reinstalled avg-free, the problem came back.



What updates did you download for Vista? Is there a clue in one of those??
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 26, 2011, 2:13 pm

These were the two Windows updates that I installed the day before yesterday. I had a brief look at them and didn't see anything obvious. I'll have a look on the Windows website and see if there are any clues.

Update for Windows Vista (KB2505189)


Installation date: ‎24/‎03/‎2011 09:32

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Recommended

Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. For a complete listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more information. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

More information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2505189

Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com

and

Update for Windows Vista (KB2524375)

Installation date: ‎24/‎03/‎2011 09:32

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Important

Install this update to resolve an issue which requires an update to the certificate revocation list on Windows systems and to keep your systems certificate list up to date. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.

More information:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=214214

Maybe there is a clue in this last one, if it thinks some sites are not certified.

I use ESET Suite = AV, Firewall etc and can see nothing in their logs or banned sites list. Indeed when I turn ESET off I still have the problem.
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby Jed » March 26, 2011, 2:42 pm

I'd definitely uninstall them, and try again...
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby arjay » March 26, 2011, 3:01 pm

I've uninstalled them both (the Windows Updates) and tried again, - still no change. I used IE this time and also tried Run instead of Save, and still neither progressed.

I suppose it's possible that uninstalling the Windows Updates didn't undo or roll back all the changes, IF of course that is what's causing the problem.
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby Jed » March 26, 2011, 3:39 pm

It should if you re-boot.

No other machine in the house to DL stuff on, eh?

Gets old after a while, I know.

Soon you just wanna go have the whole disk reformatted for 200 Baht and be done with it!
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Re: Problems downloading software updates

Postby BobHelm » March 26, 2011, 5:23 pm

At a bit of a loss to know what to suggest RJ... :(
I would suggest that you try to download & install FireFox 3.1.16.
Firefox is pretty happy about having different versions of it installed on the one PC. It does 'go away' & re-configure all your Add-ons if you start a version that is different to the last time you started FireFox, but will not complain about it.
I have 3.1.16. & 4 both installed on my pc, with 2 desktop icons. No issues, it runs whichever version I press the icon for.

The advantage of adding back the old version is two fold.
1. It will absolutely tell you if your problem stemmed from installing 4.
2. If the Vista update did something then possibly the new installation of a browser will undo it, or highlight where it is..

If that does not work then, frankly I would start thinking about installing Windows 7 & dumping Vista - which most people suggest is one of the worst products Microsoft has ever produced...
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