Qantas Suspends All International And Domestics Flights

Alan Joyce has just suspended all international and domestic Flights as of now around the world, it will be a lot of problems for already overseas and departing passengers.

Absolutely amazing that Alan Joyce can ask for and recieve a 71% pay increase, which he got just this week at the Qantas AGM, when they refuse to even negotiate with employees. Wasn't his almost 60k AUD per week enough for him.
Mind you, I would go stark raving mad if someone paid me almost 100k per week I guess.

No disrespect to your judgement Bandung Dero, however l can speak from first hand experience via my nephew who was to be employed by Jetstar being a subsidiary of Qantas as a pilot. After self funding all his pilot training to enable him to apply for a position with Jetstar, he was offered a position working in Australia being paid on New Zealand currency the princely sum of $65.000 per annum which converted to AUD was $49,835 per annum. Because Jetstar is registered in New Zealand they are able to do this. Suffice to say that he refused to accept this princely sum and gained employment with Strategic Air in Australia at $120,000 AUD per annum.

There is more to this whole saga then is reflected in the media. Perhaps Alan Joyce's move is a precursor to Qantas, our national carrier, being moved off shore which will enable the board to unload australian employees in favour of cheaper employment options overseas thus returning a higher dividend to the shareholders and the capacity to continue the upward trend of rewarding senior management beyond their capabilities and entitlement. When you listen to Alan Joyce you get a disjointed, poorly structured conversation which of late is more inflammatory and hell bent on confrontation. This attitude may well substantiate the sliding value of Qantas shares on the stock exchange. It will interesting to see which way the shares go when the exchange opens tomorrow.

Sadly, the pursuit of corporate profit whilst demanding the staff accept wage growth in line with inflation will see the death of this airline as we know it. At no point in the media releases by Qantas has productivity been mentioned. Early voluntary retirements of the rude, overweight, lazy, old 'trolly dollies' as described by you may have seen a win /win for the company and its employees rather than arbitrary job shedding.

Tony, every industry analyst I have heard/read has said that Qantas cannot exist much further into the future based on the current structure (wages, overheads etc), let alone the demands of the 3 unions, whose members already are paid, and have conditions, well above international industry standards.

Qantas does not operate in a vacuum - if it can't compete (and it can't) with what its opposition is doing, it will be shutting up shop sooner rather than later.

Bandung_Dero wrote:Great move and a great time to purge the airline of their rude, overweight, lazy, old 'trolly dollies'.

Then there is Gillard, sitting on the fence. I bet she falls to the left and takes sides with the unions! Let's get rid of her as well!

dero the only reason politics has been brought into this is because mr joyce has decided to shut down the company and not negotiate the working conditions of employees,would you prefer that people just do as there told and not be able to have a say in the conditions that they work in,and i want to stay on topic but the comment regarding,their rude overweight, lazy, old 'trolly dollies',come on thats a bit harsh we dont need to get into name calling do we,i recall you taking offence to someone recently for name calling.

Alan Joyce gets 71% increase. The unions, as far as i know, are asking for 2.5% in line with inflation and to keep jobs in Australia, not unreasonable. QANTAS won't budge hence the rolling stoppages costing $15m/w as opposed to grounding the fleet at a cost of $20m/day. I think more negotiations and compromise would have been a better option. This seems more about moving the Company offshore. This grounding appears pre-planned, regardless of what Joyce is saying.

Bandung_Dero wrote:IMHO he has done the right thing and it's not the first time this sort of action has been taken

Couldn't agree more

It has now come to light that an email was send to heads of Jetstar dated the 26th October saying they will shutdown on the saturday 29th October, so they had planned this for some time and did not tell the shareholders at the AGM on friday the 28th, what are they lying they want restart Qantas in Asia employing asia staff at low wages so the likes of Alan the RAT will get even bigger salaries,

You have a different interpretation of that email than me, bubbles.

The date on the memo was Wednesday October 26 and is addressed to team leaders saying: "By now you may be aware Qantas has announced a precautionary grounding of its fleet from 5pm Saturday", and warned of the Monday lockout.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-30/p ... ve/3609006

The email talks of past events, not anticipated (ie future) events.

The Flying Kangaroo has turned into the Boxing Kangaroo



One does feel for the over 68,000, domestic and international, stranded paying customers and the knock-on effect that this causes on the Australian economy and, in particular, tourism and the Spring Racing Carnival in Melbourne.

QANTAS Board and Management members are playing high stakes poker with this strategy. I fear the QANTAS shares will be decimated with the backlash the organisation is currently receiving. Time will tell. Sir Richard Branson is happy ..... Virgin are booming

Joyce and his immediate exec's should not have the power to shut down the Aussie national carrier just like that. Did they confer with the red head in the captain's seat first or just did it alone, what an embarrasment for Australia.

On the eve of the Melbourne cup, the end of CHOGM and the thousands upon thousands of stranded passengers and would be passengers around the glove putting up with this crap. The raving red head has no guts to take on the unions.
Joyce, his co-horts and the red head should be dragged out of their offices, tarred and feathered, f......n aresoles the lot of them, and maybe some of the union bosses could join their ranks, some of them do not have the halo above their heads. May they all rot in hell.