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Postby KHONDAHM » April 11, 2011, 2:52 pm

Looking for a little current knowledge assist regarding satellite TV outside ring road. Just had a True guy out and he says he can't do what I want done with a single subscription.

I have 3 cable jacks in almost all my rooms and I want all of them to be active. We could potentially have up to 5 TVs in different rooms on different channels. I want all the US sports and movies (or as many as possible), Discovery, NOVA, and Nat Geo type stuff, too. News I only need Al Jazeera, BBC, HNK, and MSNBC. Anything else is optional for me (sports is optional, too - not a big fan except for big games, boxing, and NASCAR).

I want the dish mounted on the shed out back which would give me only half the sky. Midpoint is facing 223 deg SW, so 90 deg to either side of that. Are there satellites in that field of view which could give me what I want? I've been told a 1.80 m dish would do it, but I am looking for some local Western knowledge to confirm or refute before buying anything. I want to just pay once and not have any headaches - and I am not looking to make it a hobby. Just install and it works, preferably. A recommendation for equipment or providers is also appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Postby KHONDAHM » April 11, 2011, 3:19 pm

Oh, I also know where I can buy equipment at cost, but they do not do installs and stock only 1.50 m dishes.
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Postby BobHelm » April 11, 2011, 3:30 pm

I posted this site once before about what satellites could be viewed, maybe will help..

http://www.satsig.net/maps/satellite-tv ... t-asia.htm
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Postby KHONDAHM » April 11, 2011, 3:41 pm

Very helpful, thanks. I am sure I will use it in the future, but I have no idea what programming is available on those satellites. Any recommended link having clear and concise programming info for each of the satellites? I have only been able to find general info (ie "this sat carries mostly this and a little bit of that" sort of thing).
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Postby BobHelm » April 11, 2011, 4:03 pm

bkkbutcher posted this one a while back.....a fair bit of reading for you I think..
http://satellite.information.in.th/
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Postby parrot » April 11, 2011, 6:46 pm

If you can do all that for just the cost of a dish, let us know! I'll cash in my 14year subscription with UBC in a heartbeat.
All the non-UBC satellite setups I've seen were crap (IMO). Russian, Viet, loads of Indian, Chinese channels with a few worthless channels in English.
If you want UBC with multiple outlets serving different channels you need individual receiver units along with each TV.
As much as I'd prefer not paying 18k for a 13month subscription with UBC, I don't see any alternative unless you're within the Home Cable territory, and even that doesn't match up to UBC gold.
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Postby merchant seaman » April 11, 2011, 6:54 pm

Came to Udon 11 years ago no options but UBC then. When I moved last Oct Truevision man couldn't believe it when he saw the old gray UBC dish. A little expensive? Yes but still the best if you want all the news, sports, and movie channels in english. Plus a lot of the channels, history, discovery, nat. geo., and a lot of the sports are dual language.The new fox channel is great with a lot of shows from the US
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Postby KHONDAHM » April 11, 2011, 11:05 pm

BobHelm wrote:bkkbutcher posted this one a while back.....a fair bit of reading for you I think..
http://satellite.information.in.th/

Thanks, BobHelm. I'd read that site previously. A little too dated and the links to the info I would otherwise need are broken.
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Postby douglas » April 12, 2011, 10:54 am

Hi,
Got USB and True in house. With true you can run 3 TV's fron same box, only prob. they will be the same ch. You will need reciever boxes for every TV if you want to watch diff. ch's on each set. This will be expensive. With PSI you can only watch the same ch. on all TV's unless you get a aerial for each set. As aerial changes position for each sat.
In evening wife watches USB Thai programs on main set, keeps her happy, and I watch True in the bedroom. I paid 500B for a box, called a " Sat-Connect reciever" from True, that i use in the bedroom, and can change the ch's from the B.R. Now in UK you can get this sort of unit that is wireless, Saves having to hard wire it in, don't know if you can buy here though. I have not checked. You can find a lot of this type of stuff in Maplins Electronics, in the U.K. They have a web site but I can't remember what it is called, and am to lazy to look it up. Got to take the wife out really.
Known four other houses on estate who had diffrent aerials, not sure which, but had them taken out in less than 3 months. I asked why, and the people said rubbish programs.
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Postby KHONDAHM » April 21, 2011, 12:59 am

Ok, here begins my story of satellite purgatory. I took the plunge and the wife ordered the install of the biggest dish PSI has in stock (1.85m) so we can get all the channels we want. That will be THB 13,000, please. Fine, let's get it done. Same day, a guy came out and installed it over the course of 3 days. Day 1 was just a site visit. Day 2 was installing the base and running wires into the "attic". Day 3 was installing the dish and testing the receivers. I figured everything went perfectly (ha!) until I noticed no motor on the satellite dish. "Very expensive - more THB 15,000" Huh? I told my wife to tell them give us the works. Surely that would imply I want it all? Nah. TIT moment. So that prepped me for the next revelation. We got ALL the Thai channels from our fixed dish (great picture quality, too) and not one single channel I wanted. Jai yen yen moment. Not the installer's fault - he gave us what the wife ordered and she didn't confirm MY channels (!), or she confirmed it and that was not what was delivered - take your pick, but she admitted culpability. That resolved, I've got to pony up another THB 15,500 for an additional (small) satellite dish and 2 receivers so I can get all the Truevision channels (unlocked-I'm not asking) in just the TV room and the bedroom. The saga continues... ;)
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Postby parrot » April 21, 2011, 7:30 pm

"That resolved, I've got to pony up another THB 15,500 for an additional (small) satellite dish and 2 receivers so I can get all the Truevision channels (unlocked-I'm not asking) in just the TV room and the bedroom. "

Is that a permanent 'unlock', or is it only good until the next time Truevision recodes their link?
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Postby kopkei » April 21, 2011, 9:07 pm

sorry, saw this topic to late ,you did pay way to much , i would say falang price ,( always problem with the psi guy's) as you also not know thai people buy the fixed 1.50m dish all in 3.000 bath, if you have a little bit knowledge you can easy install this yourself , as i did already many times ,if you want better quality as psi , i would advise anyone dynasat....
so as info here fe psi fixed ( no motor) dish 185, lnbf X1, receiver psi O2,....2.800 baht !!!
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cable cost around 7 baht / meter,
a movable dish is not really interesting anymore ( unless you are using a dreambox and server) as most of the channels are encrypted , what they mostly do now is putting the fixed black mesh dish with lnb for c-band , normal thai channels , and a ku-band lnb on same dish for fe ubc... , and if you must go many rooms you can use lnbf with multiple outlets , but you will need a receiver for each room...., for normal thaicom c-band, receiver around 800baht.....
as of your ubc being unlocked it will be short lived , only trial periode....
and as of the ubc dish , small plate 75cm, 800baht, lnb 250baht , receiver...depending brand, 3.000 baht...
way to expensive what you all mentioned, but sorry again, i am late.... :(
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Postby KHONDAHM » April 23, 2011, 5:34 pm

Nope, not entirely too late, and I DO appreciate the feedback. The price I paid was for the 1.85m dish with 6 receivers and about 50m of cable, installed. I was expecting (see OP) a whole lot more than what I got, so that is the only reason I agreed to that price. I'd done some shopping around in advance and knew that what I got, I could've had for a WHOLE lot less *shifts eyes towards the Mrs.*. The price for a 1.5m dish and a single receiver is THB 1,300 across from McD's and a little past Aek Udon. Well, we agreed to what she communicated and that is what we got, so I was bound by my word on the price.

I nixed the 2nd dish. The installer had no idea about HDMI - totally clueless as to why anyone would not want a digital to analog converter. I took that and my own gut feeling about the pirate service as a sign to thank him for his service and let him go about his merry way.

I read a little about the dreambox, but nobody seems to have a clue about it. Suggestions where to buy, cost, installer?

So, am I stuck with having to subscribe to Truevision for my English language channels?
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Postby KHONDAHM » April 23, 2011, 9:51 pm

Ok, so I am still doing waaaaaay more research than I would have liked. Seems everyone is hootin-n-hollerin about the Dreambox.

http://www.eldsat.com/product_info.php?products_id=62

Apparently, one just needs a dish (check!) and an internet connection (check!) and it's pretty much plug and play. Anyone have one of these things?
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Postby parrot » April 24, 2011, 8:40 am

I considered something like a dreambox instead of paying 18,500 for 13months of UBC/gold. But after reading http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/243 ... -receiver/ I decided the it was better to pay the money that pay for the headaches. 18,500 for 365/24 coverage, with the rare exception of a satellite problem (pseudo coup prep-up) or big storm is worth the cost......when you explore the alternatives.
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