State of emergency extended.

by **Prenders88** » July 6, 2010, 8:35 pm

Oh dear!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_p ... 518197.stm

by **parrot** » July 6, 2010, 9:32 pm

It's the new way to spell 'coup'!

by **FrazeeDK** » July 6, 2010, 10:56 pm

but dropped in these provinces: The five provinces where emergency rule has been lifted are Si Sa Ket, Kalasin, Nan, Nakhon Sawan and Nakhon Pathom, located in north, north-east and central Thailand.

Funny on Nakhon Sawan.. Nearly every truck I observed as part of the REd barricades (many) all had Nakhon Sawan license plates......

and another article referring to "underground Red Elements".. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10524678.stm Buddha help us if a mob of yutzes start slinging bombs on orders from bosses of any stripe.. Thailand has enough problems down south..

I figure it this way.. Nothing of import has happened since the 19th of May.. The fruit cart bomb, the RPG's fired on the 20 year empty oil tank; goofbal acts by rubes.. The two "Reds" sent back by the Cambodians for the planned fruit cart bombing of PumJai Thai Hq's... Chumps, patsies..

Where did all the highly trained, terrorist "black-shirts" disappear to?? They repeatedly demonstrated the ability to go wherever and do whatever they wanted to do in the run-up to the 19 May military clearing of Rajaprasong.. I can only surmise they're not doing anything because whoever pays their salaries or has their loyalties (perhaps "people of influence") choose not do so.. Why? Deals being cut?? Threats made?? Power changing/ Ya got me...

by **Laan Yaa Mo** » July 7, 2010, 2:07 am

Did you happen to mix-up Nakhon Pathom, which is near Bangkok and has the large Dvaravati (Mon)-style Buddha, with Nakhon Phanom on the banks of the Mekong in Isaan?

If the emergency is applied to Nakhon Pathom, it means that red shirt support is not confined to the north and northeast as some pundits claim.

by **trubrit** » July 7, 2010, 6:29 am

The government seem undecided which path to take with the PM talking of reconciliation nearly all the time, even if a bit tongue in cheek, whilst at the same time other cabinet members including his deputy are justifying their refusal to grant bail to the detained red leaders by saying "they face a possible death sentence for terrorism" The two paths are most certainly not compatible. In the meantime the killer of Sae Dhaeng and , more importantly, the person who gave him the orders, is still free with apparently no attempt being made to find him .
My heading 'reconciliation or retribution? The answer is out in the villages if he cares or dares, to get out and ask .
In my opinion the first is not possible while he is still PM, he's lost too much credibility all round. As for retribution? Equivalent to lighting the fuse on a mighty big bomb .Whats the answer? I don't profess to know ,but his resignation followed by an election would be an honest start to reconciliation .Extending the emergency decree is not .

by **Khun Paul** » July 7, 2010, 6:33 am

The emergency decree, is another word for keeping the lid on the troubles.As far as I am concerned with or without it, life is Ok however from a Governmental point of view, it does mean that probably tourists will come with some degree of certainty that their holidays will be okish.
TAT is complaining and so are tour operators, but then they are actually having to work hard at getting customers now. All the scams and rip offs are not putting money into anyones pockets. Coupled with the intenetion of the PT party to revert to the 2007 constitution and to bring back Khun Thaskin as it main objectives in any election, then the continuance of the Emergency decree is warranted I think.

by **jai yen yen** » July 7, 2010, 7:31 am

I think the emergency decree will definately have a negative effect on tourism. People think if you are in a state of emergency there are problems or a possibility of problems. The government needs to do this as they are in power now by using force and not by an election from the majority of the people. They are afraid and they need to be.

by **jackspratt** » July 7, 2010, 8:10 am

jai yen yen wrote: The government needs to do this as they are in power now by using force and not by an election from the majority of the people. They are afraid and they need to be.

A falsehood, if repeated often enough................................ [-(

by **arjay** » July 7, 2010, 8:23 am

The news of the extension of the state of emergency is not going to help tourism. Though high season doesn't start for another 4 months.

by **jai yen yen** » July 7, 2010, 10:33 am

jackspratt wrote:
jai yen yen wrote: The government needs to do this as they are in power now by using force and not by an election from the majority of the people. They are afraid and they need to be.

A falsehood, if repeated often enough................................

If what I say is a falsehood then why is this government afraid to hold an election?, only one reason, because they would lose. The only reason they are still in power is because they have the army and the rich behind them, not the majority of the people. Now they will try to ban any political competition by various means to insure they will have a chance when the elections do happen.

by **Aardvark** » July 7, 2010, 3:48 pm

Agree JYY, this Govt. has a limited existence and will drag it out to the end until they are defeated in the next Election. By then they will have Promoted their Senior Officers in the Army and Police to ensure Maximum disruption to the Legally Elected Govt. TIT, what a Joke

by **NOLA** » July 7, 2010, 4:32 pm

JYY...In answer to your question...The government doesn't have to hold elections just because the Reds want it...I believe your constitution says you should conduct elections every 4 years...Another point...Your Prime Minister isn't elected by a majority of the people, unless he wins more than 50% of the vote at the general election...There is only one general election in which the people vote for their own choice...Then if no one wins a majority, they buy the support of other parties to form coillition parties until they establish a majority and call it a victory decided by the majority of the people...The people vote once then the political parties take over and decide who is elected Prime Minister...This means those in parliament decide who gets the job...By the way, the present Prime Minister was elected by a majority of the parliment after the Taksin backed candidates were thrown out because of improprities, so how can the Reds say Mr. Abhisit was elected illegally???

by **BobHelm** » July 7, 2010, 4:54 pm

Yes, it is exactly the same way in the UK at the moment Nola.
A person who's party did not win the majority of the public's vote in the last General election is Prime Minister.
He replaced a Prime Minister who had never stood in an election as a candidate for Prime Minister - he got the job because he became the Leader of his party when the then (& elected) Prime Minister decided to retire.
The same set of circumstances as currently exists in Parliment in Thailand often happens in many European countries - more so when there are a large number of political parties who gain public support.

Anyone who believes that a new general election will resolve Thailand's political crisis is living in a dream world. It is highly probable that there will be two parties with a great deal of general public support but neither will get over 50% of the vote. There will be a number of smaller parties who will be willing to 'sell' (I am not implying, necessarily, corruption here - The Liberal/Democrats have 'sold' their votes to the Conservatives in the UK) their support to which ever of the two main parties who offers most.

by **jai yen yen** » July 8, 2010, 12:41 am

NOLA wrote:JYY...In answer to your question...The government doesn't have to hold elections just because the Reds want it...I believe your constitution says you should conduct elections every 4 years...Another point...Your Prime Minister isn't elected by a majority of the people, unless he wins more than 50% of the vote at the general election...There is only one general election in which the people vote for their own choice...Then if no one wins a majority, they buy the support of other parties to form coillition parties until they establish a majority and call it a victory decided by the majority of the people...The people vote once then the political parties take over and decide who is elected Prime Minister...This means those in parliament decide who gets the job...By the way, the present Prime Minister was elected by a majority of the parliment after the Taksin backed candidates were thrown out because of improprities, so how can the Reds say Mr. Abhisit was elected illegally???

To start off where does a military coup fit in with political procedures? Also the impropriaties you refer to such as hosting a part time cooking show and others are just a ploy to gain power. Most politicians are guilty of breaking the rules, only some get away with it. The present government was told to step down because of improper procedures, they just said no. That was it. If you have the military and the rich behind you you can do what you want it seems. I am not a fan of Thaksin or most politicians for that matter, even in Canada I do not know of any good politicians. I do know that a very large percentage of the Thai people are not happy and I fear more trouble is on the way and the way the present government is dealing there hand is not going to help.

by **NOLA** » July 8, 2010, 10:07 am

JYY...don't ask me about coups...ask the Thai people why they are too impatient to wait for the normal time frame for elections, then vote for whom they want...hopefully, their candidate will win...if not, they can use their normal responses of anarchy and violent demonstrations...of course this only hurts the entire population.

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