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Postby izzix » January 22, 2007, 3:54 am

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Will new restrictions on foreign ownership in Thailand lead to panic in the property market, asks Michael Sheridan
British villa owners in Thailand face uncertainty over the legal status of their properties, and might even lose control over their homes following a controversial change in company law by the country
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Postby Bump » January 22, 2007, 6:08 am

Well I wonder what the next elected governemnt is going to like.
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Postby skipvice » January 22, 2007, 8:52 am

same same only different :lol: :lol:
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Postby cookie » February 14, 2007, 1:49 pm

. In the UK Thais, like just about any other nationality, can do what they like, once legally in the country. Including run for parliament, and they don't even need to be a citizen.

When Thailand was on its knees, it begged for foreign investment but now that all is green in the garden, they turn on those same investors and kick them in the teeth. Not the first time, nor the last.

Your elected PM (Thaksin), like many Thais, owns property in the UK. Despite being married to a Thai, I will never be able to just go and buy a house freehold in Thailand. I'll also never be considered a resident. After getting married, my wife was given residency in the UK and can engage in whatever occupation she chooses, vote, get free healthcare and eventually get a pension.
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Postby rickfarang » February 14, 2007, 2:41 pm

Just a thought.

If there is no provision in the new constitution that is currently being drafted prohibiting foreign ownership of land, then there would not be a basis for the current law. Or maybe law in Thailand doesn't work that way :?:

When there is change, there is opportunity.
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Re: Thai anxiety

Postby BKKSTAN » February 14, 2007, 2:46 pm



In the meantime, Pathnadabutr has advised owners and prospective buyers “not to panic”. Claire Brown, of UK-based Claire Brown Realty, also warns against overreaction. “The basic facts haven’t changed,” she says. “Thailand is still one of the best places in the world to own an investment property. The tourists are still coming, infrastructure is improving, and if you buy a premium property you will have a steady rental income.

Stan says;HOW CAN INVESTMENT PROPERTY IN THAILAND BE ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD?Very little appreciation,poor financing options,faullty and sub grade building materials causing excessive maintenance and repair expences,very little or no control of zoning and neighborhoods and then add this final quoted paragraph:
''Thailand may still be the Land of Smiles, but it is not a place where investors should place much faith in contracts, lease renewals or bureaucratic consistency.''

Claire Brown Realty, 07967 258 121, www.clairebrownrealty.com Holt-Realty, 00 66 2693 4146, www.holt-realty.com
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Postby rickfarang » February 14, 2007, 3:03 pm

Stan, your observation hit the nail on the head. To that list, add that rents are low and tenants often trash the place and try to take everything that isn't nailed down.

What we must keep in mind is that Ms. Brown runs a reality company, so her comments might not be totally objective.
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Postby cookie » February 14, 2007, 7:42 pm

Breaking news hot from the Bangkok Post

[/quote]BREAKING NEWS

World property boom lifts Pattaya

By Peter Janssen, dpa

Previously best known in the tourism industry for its sleazy nightlife, Pattaya is enjoying Southeast Asia's first second-homes property boom, and the buyers are primarily wealthy Europeans and Americans.


Last year, the resort sold more than $230 million of beachside condominiums - more than 7.7 billion baht - mostly to foreign buyers.

Although modest by international standards, the construction boom - there are about 300 condominium and residential projects under way in the Pattaya neighbourhood - has already raised concerns about exacerbated water shortages and rising crime against foreigners.

And the boom is pricing locals out of the market.

"Four or five years ago, you could buy any condominium unit for about $30,000 to $35,000," said Clayton Wade, managing director of the Premier Homes Real Estate Co and a longtime Pattaya resident. "They have all at least tripled."

The prices are being ramped up by the dearth of reasonably priced vacation homes in the United States and Europe, a growing global market for beachside property and a lot of speculation, including some money- laundering activity.

"We've got plenty of monkey business in this town," Wade conceded.

Similar housing booms are taking place at Thailand's other beach resorts - Hua Hin, Samui and Phuket - and to a lesser degree in other Southeast Asian destinations, notably on Indonesia's Bali.

And the take-off in second-homes sales is not limited to Southeast Asia.

Europeans are flocking to Croatia and Bulgaria to snap up Mediterranean villas that are cheaper than what's on offer in Spain. Americans are going south to Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua and Honduras in search of affordable getaways.

The global migration from the developed world has been unleashed by a number of factors. For starters, there are a lot more wealthy people in the wealthy countries, and much of this new wealth has been generated off property.

According to estimates by The Economist magazine, the value of residential property in developed countries increased by more than $30 trillion from 2001 to 2005, an increase equivalent to 100 per cent of those countries' gross domestic products.

The Economist's dire prediction in 2005 that this property boom is the world's biggest bubble that is about to kaboom has yet to be actualized. Instead, the bubble has spread to more remote shores.

"Globally, what's happened now is there are a lot of people not just buying a second home but finding that investing in real estate makes money," said David Simister, chairman of the real-estate company CBRE Richard Ellis in Bangkok.

Simister is selling luxury properties on Thailand's Phuket island, some of which are fetching up to $5 million. The foreigners who are buying these properties are often reselling them at a huge profit.

"People are very savvy investors," Simister said. "They know property is an appreciating asset and absolute beachfront or ocean view is a finite commodity."

In other words, the property boom has gone global. It helps that the world is a much more connected place and that even far-flung locations are often easily accessible.

At your $5 million villa in Phuket, you are an hour's drive from an international airport that can take you to any country in the world. And rather than queueing at a travel agent's you can book your ticket via the internet from your home computer while watching CNN on cable TV and munching on some Kentucky Fried Chicken, home-delivered.

This is all good news for the rich. Construction on luxury condominiums and villas is also good business for local economies, providing jobs and new markets for local suppliers of goods and furniture.

But there are downsides.

Take a look at Spain, which boasts the biggest second-homes industry in the world, worth more than 4 billion euros ($5.2 billion) in sales annually.

Foreign buyers have driven up housing prices at double-digit rates, making homes largely unaffordable for most Spaniards. About 30 per cent of Spain's young adults live with their parents.

Sales of prime property to individual investors can also mean lost opportunities for the local tourism industry as the example of Galle, one of the most popular tourist destinations in Sri Lanka, shows.

"We are having a huge problem as foreigners have purchased homes in Galle city, posing a serious setback to the local tourist industry," Mayor Kelum Senaratne said.

"At least 40 houses have been purchased outright by foreigners in the Dutch Fort in Galle, and they are making renovations according to their own will despite the fort being declared a World Heritage site by UNESCO," the mayor said.

Social scientists have expressed concerns that this new migration of wealthy foreign homeowners into the developing world could end up causing more social problems, such as competition for water resources and rising crime, than the economic opportunities are worth.

"Governments think about [property] development in terms of investment, job creation, incoming dollars but not in terms of the social impact on the local population," warned Allen Cordero, professor at the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences in Costa Rica.

I think that people that buy condominiums are not the same like us that live in the country side.
As a foreigner you can own a condominium.
As a foreigner you can not own land and/or house(unless with special company constructions or usufruct)
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