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Post by FrazeeDK » October 17, 2014, 8:14 am

"screening procedures??" Suvarnaphumi has had the Thermographs at the ramp to immigration since early September.. Of course, that only detects those individuals with a fever and doesn't do a thing for people who are still in the virus incubation stage with no active symptoms..


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Post by ronan01 » October 17, 2014, 9:16 am

President Obola’s Panic Attack

The ebola virus, always present in Africa, was discovered in 1976 and threatens only those who live in conditions of extreme squalor, where hands are washed less often than they might be and cultural practices help to spread the pestilence. Unless it has recently mutated (and that genetic change has gone unnoticed), ebola is not transmitted via, say, sneeze-driven aerosol clouds of tiny droplets, only by direct contact with body fluids of its victims, meaning puke, poo and blood. Like cholera, it kills by dehydration and the loss of important salts and minerals called electrolytes. Rehydrate a patient, replace those lost electrolytes and recovery is very likely. Should we in the West be afraid of cholera epidemics? The answer is no, we really should not.

The reason why is because we have working toilets and wash our hands after using them. Nor do we use dirty syringes or allow domesticated animals to spread infections. We have functioning waste disposal systems and, most important, we know that filth is bad for public health, so we shower and mop our floors. Also, we do not eat monkeys. Yes, you read that correctly – butchering and eating chimpanzees, part of the “bushmeat” trade, is one of the vectors of ebola’s spread. Incidentally, a chimpanzee has an intellect comparable to that of a four-year-old child.

Nevertheless, Mr Obama is convinced that ebola is the greatest threat to all humanity. That belief is clearly not true, especially in the case of advanced nations with functioning public health systems. Failed states do have a problem, no doubt about it. But should we feel morally responsible for failed states and their, well, failure to endorse and promote adequate health and hygiene. Concerned, yes, and sympathetic too, but responsible? Not at all.

Nor is it true that there is no treatment for this virus – there are at least three developed medications: ZMapp, TKM-Ebola and Favipiravir. These medications are not approved by the international bureaucracy, which instead of working to approve and distribute them, instead spreads panic and media hysteria about a treatable and containable disease. Next comes a carpet bombing of the emotions with hysterical demands for more money to prevent the spread of a disease that shouldn’t exist in the first place, considering the amount of aid international do-gooders receive. A vaccine available to be used against ebola was developed by SmithGlaxoKlein, which offered this medication to WHO only to be knocked back. Go figure.

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Post by ronan01 » October 17, 2014, 9:25 am

The Exponential of Ebola Rolls On

So, as a bare minimum, I’d propose the following:

1) Land a mobile CBW hospital with complete hazmat gear in Africa. Use THAT as the place to treat, and quarantine, any health care workers and missionaries and such that get Ebola while working there. Do not take them off the continent until 30 days after recovery from infection, or 30 days after last exposure to infection in others.

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Post by bumper » October 17, 2014, 9:28 am

Nevertheless, Mr Obama is convinced that ebola is the greatest threat to all humanity. That belief is clearly not true, especially in the case of advanced nations with functioning public health systems. Failed states do have a problem, no doubt about it. But should we feel morally responsible for failed states and their, well, failure to endorse and promote adequate health and hygiene. Concerned, yes, and sympathetic too, but responsible? Not at all.
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Post by bumper » October 17, 2014, 9:35 am

What the White House says now after the Fox News, I'm not including the previous artlcle White House to appoint a Ebola Czar. Actually I didn't think we ha Czar's in the U.S. interesting.

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Post by KHONDAHM » October 17, 2014, 10:32 am

Actually, we do have a health Czar. Oops! "supposed to have" a health Czar: The U.S. Surgeon General is the position responsible for coordinating all that needs to be coordinated - including disseminating information to the public. So, where the $@&*! has the U.S. Surgeon General been since all this stuff has been going on, you ask? Well, just like not having an Ambassador to Russia or other countries where we REALLY should have someone representing us, you can thank your nearest Republican voter for excercising their right to vote for nitwits and your nearest Democrat voter who did not vote for whatever sorry excuse they concoct because that is what made and keeps our Congress so dysfunctional that Republicans have been able to successfully block the nominations of those critical positions.

US Congress = Government by Crisis.

So, now that Americans are dropping dead and entire school districts are so panicked that they are shutting down for 3 weeks (incubation period for Ebola), you can expect Obama's stalled nomination for a U.S. Surgeon General will miraculously now be confirmed (as in no Republican fillibuster) so they can have their scapegoat. WHY the holdup thus far? Well, you can believe its because the National Rifle Association (yes, that's right!) is blocking it or you can speculate that it may be because his "physical attributes" have something to do with it. Whatever the reason, there ain't no U.S. Surgeon General this Ebola season!

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Post by bumper » October 17, 2014, 11:04 am

Surgeon General, used to that. Czar not a phrase I have heard before.

We may not have a Surgeon General. But, someone is running the CDC. apparently not very well. In the demonstrations I have seen thus far, I have not seen wash down before re removing the protective gear. Anyone who has been in the military and had biological training knows that. Mine was 50 years ago.

They are in a hospital a shower has to be available. Dump the gear there then dispose of it with hazardous waste they are all ready handling.

I've noticed bleach being used a lot on the African Nations. is that working. Right now percentage wise their health care workers are doing better in avoiding the decease, then the U.S. is. Must be a reason for that?

I think it was a good move by the Big to stop nonsense and state the facts about the decease

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Post by JoeThrows » October 17, 2014, 11:33 am

I'd rather the country sit on its collective hands than follow any suggestions from Rachel madcow or msnbc. Pure propaganda 24/7

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Post by KHONDAHM » October 17, 2014, 12:04 pm

JoeThrows wrote:I'd rather the country sit on its collective hands than follow any suggestions from Rachel madcow or msnbc. Pure propaganda 24/7
If sourced, factual reporting is your definition of propoganda, then your Faux News is propoganda-free! Ha!

Anyone can watch a full episode and quickly debunk "your opinion":

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Post by JoeThrows » October 17, 2014, 12:51 pm

Ah yes because everyone who doesn't watch msnbc watches fox all day.

Tell me mr dim bulb, which administration removed the ban on allowing propaganda to be broadcast by the us govt inside America, on u.s. Citizens?

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Post by GT93 » October 24, 2014, 6:16 am

NYT opinion piece on Ebola:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/23/opini ... inion&_r=0

Kristoff: The number of Ebola cases is doubling every 2 to 4 weeks ...
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Post by bumper » October 24, 2014, 10:54 am

Well New York City has it's first case now and that is all CNN is talking about for hours. Sort of reminds me of SARS. Although this may be a worse illness. There should be no surprise once it hit a major area with an airport.

Scare tactics and over kill on information, probably not helpful
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Post by noosard » October 24, 2014, 11:05 am

yes NY has its first ebola case
but it was imported
what is needed is help at the source
stop the spread to 3rd world countries where it will be hard to contain

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Post by GT93 » October 24, 2014, 11:22 am

Yes noosard.

I thought it was a pretty balanced piece. He says it can be well contained in first world countries but may be awful if it spreads to countries such as India. I think the Thais would do better than countries such as India but Thailand isn't a first world country.
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Post by bumper » October 24, 2014, 11:44 am

I would agree the report is balanced. But, do you need to run it for 12 hours there are goth things happening in the world. Yesterday the Canadian shootings, today Ebola. I'm speaking of CNN as far a I can tell with CNN they find a big story then ride it into the ground. Normally you only have to tell me once and I have a fair picture of what is going on.

A nut bucket does a shooting in Canada, is that unusual sure is. That being said CNN managed to paint the picture of similar attacks in the states. Cops ambushed in New York last night, that is not the first time that has happened. Is it a part of an ISIS attack?

I have no idea. It's far to early to know that, if I was still a cop or in the military I might be just a bit more careful. How will we dete3mine what it really is? You know the snoops no one likes. When it connected there then I will worry about it

There are problems these days, But, running around scared isn't going to help things. Ebola is not new they knew about it 30 years ago. I appreciate having solid information. Exchange of bodily fluids. I would be lo more frightened if it were airborne.

It really brakes down to the old saying if it bleeds it reads.
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Post by GT93 » October 24, 2014, 11:49 am

Hey Bumps, put the can of beer down, pick up the telly remote, point it at the CNN pointy heads and change channels. Voila. One more viewer's sanity is now less threatened from the ad nauseam stories. I know what you mean. :D
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Post by bumper » October 24, 2014, 5:29 pm

I think you have found the problem I don't drink time to start again I believe
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Post by noosard » October 26, 2014, 2:42 pm

An Australian man who recorded an elevated temperature has been told to stay at his home in Thailand after returning from the Democratic Republic of Congo, where 49 people have died of Ebola.

The unnamed man returned to Thailand on October 17 from the DRC, where he works in the oil-drilling industry.
He lives in Trat province, 312km southeast of Bangkok.

Reports on Sunday said Trat Hospital had been asked by the Thai public health office to prepare "to put a patient under investigation", after he recorded an elevated temperature when he was tested at Bangkok international airport.

A doctor at Trat Hospital's emergency unit said the man had been told to "remain at home" under observation, until November 5, three weeks after returning from Africa.

"He doesn't come to the hospital, he just stays at home," the doctor told AAP.

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Post by GT93 » October 27, 2014, 3:53 am

Holy smoke. Ebola would be hard to contain in Thailand. Fingers crossed nothing here.
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Post by maxbenoit » December 26, 2014, 8:30 pm

The ebola virus, always present in Africa, was discovered in 1976 and threatens only those who live in conditions of extreme squalor, where hands are washed less often than they might be and cultural practices help to spread the pestilence. Unless it has recently mutated (and that genetic change has gone unnoticed), ebola is not transmitted via, say, sneeze-driven aerosol clouds of tiny droplets, only by direct contact with body fluids of its victims, meaning puke, poo and blood. Like cholera, it kills by dehydration and the loss of important salts and minerals called electrolytes.

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