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The Troy Davis case

Postby kjellsnell » September 22, 2011, 9:17 am

I almost puked up my breakfast when I turned on CNN this morning. In America, there seems to be no certainty at all. In Troy's case, claiming he killed a police officer in 1989 but there is no technical evidence only the testimony. Of those witnesses who were originally nine has seven recanted that it really was Troy Davis, who killed the police officer case is. The United States seems to be happy with that as long as you have someone to execute it's all good then you obviously do not care whether there is evidence or not. It is a disgrace to the world, a disgrace to the United States and a mortal sin, and let them which executes innocent burn in hell!

Many people, above all black, has been sentenced to long terms of imprisonment but acquitted in the U.S. for DNA testing. Unfortunately, it is so that you can not give life back to executed people, and I wonder how many innocent were executed in the United States over the years, shame on you USA! :evil:
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Postby kjellsnell » September 22, 2011, 10:17 am

TROY DAVIS IS NOW DIED AND I PRAY FOR HIS SOUL!!
U.S. has murdered an innocent man! How can I say that? In Troy's case, there was no evidence, and under U.S. law, people are innocent until otherwise proven! Troy Davis was accor THE LAW Act innocent. If the courts had followed the law had not been carried out this murder! United States, ashamed, ashamed! A country like this, I would not visit even if I got paid ...... A disgrace to the entire world, United States and Obama, please tell me, where were you when the murder took place and why did do not stop the murder of Troy Davis! [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X
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Postby jackspratt » September 22, 2011, 11:03 am

Very few civilised countries still judicially murder their citizens.

Unfortunately, to its shame, the US is one of them. :-k
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Postby ABS-Relocations » September 22, 2011, 12:41 pm

I don´t if it´s wrong of me to write. But get the impression that it was cheaper to give him the injection than pay him a great sum of money, because he was innocent. Also nobody have say no that they was wrong and to jail all this years was wrong..
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Postby randerson79 » September 22, 2011, 1:15 pm

No way this garbage post belongs under world news. I read world news to to read facts. Not someones opinion.

Please move this to the General Debates & Discussions!!!
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Postby lee » September 22, 2011, 1:24 pm

randerson, please use the report post function to the left of the quote icon. Thanks ;)
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Postby lee » September 22, 2011, 1:26 pm

Time line of events: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -saga.html

September 21, 2011: The five-member board refuses to reverse its decision and also denies a request to allow Davis to take a lie detector test to prove his innocence.


Why would they deny a lie detector test? Surely everyone guilty or not should be given the opportunity to prove their case.
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Postby kjellsnell » September 22, 2011, 2:29 pm

lee wrote:Time line of events: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -saga.html

September 21, 2011: The five-member board refuses to reverse its decision and also denies a request to allow Davis to take a lie detector test to prove his innocence.


Why would they deny a lie detector test? Surely everyone guilty or not should be given the opportunity to prove their case.


WHY HAS THE TOPIC BEEN MOVED??????????????????????????????????
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Postby jimboLV » September 22, 2011, 2:48 pm

lee wrote:Why would they deny a lie detector test? Surely everyone guilty or not should be given the opportunity to prove their case.


Lee, lie detector tests are not admissible in court in the US, mainly as they are unreliable. With the proper training, anyone can beat a lie detector test.

This scumbag was given "every opportunity" to prove his innocence, over 22 years time with a legion of high priced bleeding heart lawyers looking for loopholes. The press reporting on this is somewhat sensational and erroneous. If you look at the transcript (I have), you will find the facts are far different from what is being reported.

For anyone interested you can read the transcript here: (It's 47 pages long but if you skip the legal mumbo jumbo it goes pretty quick.)

http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200816009ord.pdf
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Postby rjj04 » September 22, 2011, 4:11 pm

jimboLV wrote:This scumbag was given "every opportunity" to prove his innocence


Would you care to rephrase that?
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Postby jimboLV » September 22, 2011, 4:14 pm

Nope.
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Postby rjj04 » September 22, 2011, 5:56 pm

I was under the assumption that it was the state that was supposed to prove somebody guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, not the other way around.
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Postby jimboLV » September 22, 2011, 6:40 pm

Aha! Now I see what you're getting at arjay, a valid point. The state DID prove him guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt, or at least a jury of his peers. This was then followed up by 22 years of reviews by various courts and judges. One of the appeal points, according to the transcript I referenced earlier, was that since he was innocent they should not execute him. So the exercise switched over to prove his innocence and none of the appeals courts felt that he had done that. Sounds kind of like circular logic to me.

Anyway it is not my intention to get into a discussion of capital punishment, as that is a pointless argument and nobody is going to change their mind, you're either for it or against it and there are arguments on either side. I am merely addressing the erroneous reports that he was patently innocent.
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Postby JR » September 22, 2011, 6:45 pm

Rjj04, That assumption is only valid if the accused is not black or hispanic.
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Postby stoneman » September 22, 2011, 6:59 pm

Texas put to death a White Supremeist today that drug a black man behind his car and killed him...Anyone have a problem with that?
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