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Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby Flatlander » September 23, 2009, 3:54 pm

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OK i admit I'm not the best driver in the world (although, in reality, I am), this post is for those who have some or no experience driving out in Thailand. Over the last year i've covered around 60,000 km, so I've been doing a fair bit of driving, but then Thailand is pretty big, so whilst getting about you can't help knocking up some miles.

The Pirate's tips to driving Thailand

1. Hold your own. Definitely relevant to driving in BKK. Hold your own. That means, pick a lane, and hold it steady. There will be Thai's lane swapping and diving from lane to lane to get 5 metres further in front. Let them. If you want to drive as safely as you can, try to stick to one lane, and hold you own.

2. Don't get involved in spats. Just like driving anywhere in the world, you will get frustrated in traffic... Idiots will want to slice you up, edge in front etc... Try not to get wound up. Bad Thai drivers will push you to the limit, but you're the one on unfamiliar terrain, so take it easy. Thai's are the world renowned masters at holding back pent up frustration, but you don't want to be around when one blows a fuse (anyone with Thai girlfriend or wife can back me up here).... You flicking the birdie at the Taxi driver might just be the final spark that blows the roof off...

3. Left is for slow. If you are trying to find a shop, street or building, stick as close as you can to the far left lane, beside the pavements / sidewalk, and even in city traffic you can pretty much drive as slow as you like. This is well known as the slow area, and it will be obvious to Thai drivers that you are looking out for something on that street.

4. Carry cash. Traffic cops are notorious in Thailand. If you are driving alot whilst in Thailand, chances are they will find a reason to pull you... By all means fight your corner, but have some cash handy, cos you don't want to have to visit the old bill shop in some obscure part of Bangkok (or Thailand) later on.

5. Don't be tempted to kill motorcyclists. Motorcyclists will surround you, effectively herding you in., The more driving you do in LOS, the more you will want to kill them.... But take a breathe and try to remember, they are road users too, and should be afforded the same space as a car. If they drive poorly and something happens, that's their look out; if you drive poorly and something happens, you could be in deep trouble, as well as have a very bad conscience to deal with.

6. Police stops. This is a good one. Having been stopped at least a dozen times by traffic cops, I have around a 70-30 ratio of escape (although lately it's going down). Cops will accuse you of switching lanes, driving too fast etc, plus general minor offences that often cannot be helped.

The cop stop game begins... My personal 'bottom line rule' is that I am never going to waste time going to the cop shop at some later date, and so there are only two possible outcomes in the cop stop game, you either get away with it, or pay a fine.

There are many tacts you can attempt, smiley, naive and friendly, this has worked for me before, i.e try to make the cop like you (you have more chance of pulling this off if done genuinely)...

Or, you could go the other way and assume a lofty stance and try to convince the cop that you are mighty 'VIP', thus scaring him into letting you go. This works better if you are a bit pissed off about something anyway.... This has worked for me also (and gone wrong as well, I should add).

The other trick I am trying lately is, if you are English speaking, and your girlfriend / wife is English speaking, and you have a cop bogging at you both through the window, I've found that if you show some Thai language skills, and also discuss things with your better half (in English) 99% of the time the cop won't have a clue what you're saying to each other.... As time ticks away, cop may get aggitated that more and more of his 'customers' are speeding by, or possibly he might even get freaked that you're planning to get him in trouble somehow - he may just let you go to save all the bother..... That has worked for me as well (discovered by accident).

The other great one, but rare, is travel with someone who is actually considered important in Thai society. I had someone in the back of the car whilst driving in BKK once, we were stopped, and my passenger (a lady) opened her window and smiled and said a few words. The cop SOMEHOW knew instantly that she was 'VIP', and like some Jedi mind trick, we were magically on our way without so much as a frown.... I don't know what that is all about, or how the cop knew she was VIP (she isn't famous or anything) but I guess there are rules the Thai's play by that us farang just don't understand.

If in doubt, or indeed if you have actually done something wrong whilst driving, just give the cop the 200-400 baht and be on your way. Its a helluva lot cheaper than getting flashed by a speed camera back in UK, so quit bitchin' about how unfair the world is, and drive on!

7. Night driving. Thai main roads between provinces are good, wide and traffic is sparse. You can have a great time driving in Thailand when outside of the main city centres. Night driving is a little different, as lots of the roads won't have street lighting and if you drive too fast on unfamiliar dark roads you could be asking for trouble.

8. Animals. The more driving you do, the more you have to prepare for wandering animals. I have lost count the amount of birds that have commited suicide on the front of my car. Plus, be prepared for dogs wandering out in front of you on the more rural roads (no one wants a dead mutt on their conscience).

9. Finally, personally I think the most important tip. Don't do anything suddenly. Whether driving in heavy traffic, turning the car into a side street, or moving into a parking space, don't do anything suddenly. Chances are, there is a person / motorcyclist / car / lorry somewhere in the equation, out of site... Your sudden, unexpected movement could be curtains for them.

Or you.
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby Fawn » September 24, 2009, 2:18 am

School kids on mopeds coming out of left hand turns without looking - absolutely frightening.
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby dill » September 25, 2009, 5:11 pm

Fawn wrote:School kids on mopeds coming out of left hand turns without looking - absolutely frightening.


not just kids, i find it is everyone on mopeds.
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby Galee » September 25, 2009, 5:26 pm

Had a narrow miss this morning.
Waiting at Big C lights on the ring road to turn right to get to Big C. I was at the front of the Q. Lights changed to green and I pull away. Some f***ing idiot on a motorbike decides to run the red light to my right. These lights had been red for about 40 seconds.
He was doing at least 40kph as he flew past a few feet in front of me. I half wished I had caught his back wheel and sent him spinning across the road to teach him a lesson.
Moral of the story. If your at the front of a Q at lights always look left and right to look for the Kamikaze Thai on a motor bike who puts too much trust in Buddha.
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby BobHelm » September 25, 2009, 5:42 pm

Misses had a similar at those lights a while back Galee.
She was going straight over on the ring road going towards Honda/Military Hospital from Romyen. Came up to lights that were ON green when she arrived & got hit in the side by a motor cyclist coming from the first LEFT (i.e. the wrong way down the road from Nakon - so I guess he could safely say that he didn't see any red lights :D ) She proceeded over the lights so she could stop safely but he was up & gone by the time she stopped.... :(
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby dill » September 25, 2009, 5:48 pm

Galee wrote:Had a narrow miss this morning.
Waiting at Big C lights on the ring road to turn right to get to Big C. I was at the front of the Q. Lights changed to green and I pull away. Some f***ing idiot on a motorbike decides to run the red light to my right. These lights had been red for about 40 seconds.
He was doing at least 40kph as he flew past a few feet in front of me. I half wished I had caught his back wheel and sent him spinning across the road to teach him a lesson.
Moral of the story. If your at the front of a Q at lights always look left and right to look for the Kamikaze Thai on a motor bike who puts too much trust in Buddha.

yep have had many near misses at them lights by motorbikes going through after the lights have turned red
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby Fawn » September 26, 2009, 3:55 am

Fawn wrote:School kids on mopeds coming out of left hand turns without looking - absolutely frightening.


dill wrote:not just kids, i find it is everyone on mopeds.


Yeah, it's just that I get a bit more anxious when I see school kids doing it, the effect would be the same though.
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby BKKSTAN » September 26, 2009, 7:09 am

When I first moved to Bangkok,I felt alot of fear when out in traffic while someone else was driving!I thought that I would never drive in Thailand,although I consider myself a much better driver than most!
After getting more familier with the Thai driving habits and more used driving on the opposite lane than I was used to,I realized that it was probably safer than in the USA,not from accidents,but fatalities!

Now I like driving in Thailand ,but it takes a defensive driving mindset,paying attention at all times.In towns,it is easier once you have learned to slow your speed and pace in life.

On the open highway,I drive faster here than in the USA,but I am much more alert to possible situations than in the US also!
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby stoneman » September 26, 2009, 8:54 am

The most frightening thing I see is the overloaded song kaews full of students hanging by one hand on the railing(not to mention the ones sitting on top) while the driver is flying down the highway, dodging in and out of traffic...A major accident just looking for a place to happen...
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby jimboLV » September 26, 2009, 9:23 am

BKKSTAN wrote:When I first moved to Bangkok,I felt alot of fear when out in traffic while someone else was driving!I thought that I would never drive in Thailand,although I consider myself a much better driver than most!


Thank you for saying that Stan. I thought I was getting paranoid in my old age. I have driven for over 50 years in the US, in some of the world's worst traffic; New York, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, with nary an accident that was my fault. But I am scared to death to drive in Udon, especially downtown. My wife does all the driving, and every time we go out I can count at least 2 or 3 near misses that would have resulted in an accident for a less skilled driver. I drive on long trips on the open road and around the wife's village, but Udon - -forget it. It's not the driving on the wrong side of the road, I think I have that down. It's the behavior of the other drivers, especially motorbikes and tuk tuks, coupled with the lack of proper signage and nonexistent channelization, especially around construction sites. That mess outside the complex is a perfect example.....a busy intersection ripped up, so they just turn off the traffic signals and it's every man (or girl) for themselves. And the ubiquitous double parking doesn't help. hard to maintain your lane when there are trucks and tuk tuks parked two deep, forcing you to go into the opposite lane.

I've driven a few times around town and like you say, it's not that bad if you concentrate and remember the rules of defensive driving. I am trying to psych myself up for the big solo trip downtown and probably that won't happen until my wife goes in to have her baby in January. That will be the motivator and I'm sure it will work out OK.
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby Farang1 » July 31, 2010, 11:31 am

Had a chance to go for a drive a few days ago.

We went down to Khon Kaen and my wife did the driving. Time to come back, my wife was tired so, I said I would drive. "You can drive?" :shock: (I love her confidence in me.)
"Sure, no problem." 8-[ (equal confidence in myself.)

My wife is in the passenger seat.....Keep left! Lookout for motorcycle! Keep left! Look out for truck! [-o<

I don't think she got much rest. :yikes:

I didn't do to bad, though. I didn't run over anyone. Didn't hit anything. Got use to not signaling a lane change with the windshield wiper and shifting gears with the door handle. \:D/
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby Bilko » August 1, 2010, 12:38 am

Went for a nice ride to khon kaen on my motorcycle a few days ago, and was almost crushed to a pulp by some half baked farang plodding along hugging the curb whilst pi55ing about with his door handle. He even had his wipers going full pelt on a glorious evening. Good job his lovely wife was keeping a eye out for us motorcyclists. what a plonker!
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby Prenders88 » August 1, 2010, 6:34 am

I drive defensively, and assume that everyone is out to kill me.

Never pull off as soon as the light turns green, wait until the traffic jumpers have gone through.

There is a junction on the 216 ring road where 100+ people have died due to selfish morons jumping the lights.
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby LoongLee » August 1, 2010, 6:51 am

Bilko,,,,,"Went for a nice ride to khon kaen,,,,,,,,,,"

=D> =D> =D> Well played Bilko!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tips for driving in Thailand

Postby nkstan » August 1, 2010, 7:05 am

jimboLV wrote:
BKKSTAN wrote:When I first moved to Bangkok,I felt alot of fear when out in traffic while someone else was driving!I thought that I would never drive in Thailand,although I consider myself a much better driver than most!


Thank you for saying that Stan. I thought I was getting paranoid in my old age. I have driven for over 50 years in the US, in some of the world's worst traffic; New York, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, with nary an accident that was my fault. But I am scared to death to drive in Udon, especially downtown. My wife does all the driving, and every time we go out I can count at least 2 or 3 near misses that would have resulted in an accident for a less skilled driver. I drive on long trips on the open road and around the wife's village, but Udon - -forget it. It's not the driving on the wrong side of the road, I think I have that down. It's the behavior of the other drivers, especially motorbikes and tuk tuks, coupled with the lack of proper signage and nonexistent channelization, especially around construction sites. That mess outside the complex is a perfect example.....a busy intersection ripped up, so they just turn off the traffic signals and it's every man (or girl) for themselves. And the ubiquitous double parking doesn't help. hard to maintain your lane when there are trucks and tuk tuks parked two deep, forcing you to go into the opposite lane.

I've driven a few times around town and like you say, it's not that bad if you concentrate and remember the rules of defensive driving. I am trying to psych myself up for the big solo trip downtown and probably that won't happen until my wife goes in to have her baby in January. That will be the motivator and I'm sure it will work out OK.


Until and if you get used to the ''trouble spots'' on your routes through town,I suggest that you always drive slow(allows for easy adjustment and reactions) and stay in the right hand lane(through slower at intersections,you avoid pullout,M/B's and peds stepping out),with your experience,you will get the hang of it quite fast!

The most important thing is NEVER takes your attention away from the road.I think those in a hurry are the ones at risk.Near misses are a way of life here,but they won't seem so important as time goes by as long as you drive slow!
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