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Postby Dakoda » August 9, 2005, 9:27 pm

Anyone got the number for the local Udon dog catcher? :wink:
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Postby valentine » August 10, 2005, 8:24 am

Don't know number, just look out for pickup with cages on the back and black plastic bowls on the roof, you get one for a skinny one and two bowls for a fat black one.!!!
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Postby businessman » August 10, 2005, 10:50 am

Just let your local Vietnamese community know and they will come round and round them up.
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Postby Dakoda » August 10, 2005, 2:21 pm

:idea:
talk about a farang money making business, this could be a franchised business with small investment. :lol: Hmm, wonder what the going per kilo rate is in Vietnam for dog these days! :wink:
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Postby admin » August 10, 2005, 3:54 pm

The police have been trying to stop this for a long time but of course it still goes on. Most of the dogs are sold to Laos and Vietnam but some are sold in Sakon Nakhon.

It really upsets me that this goes on. I watched a TV program all about the dog trade and it makes me angry to see how badly the dogs are kept before being taken off to be slaughtered. The poor things pushed into small cages for sometimes many days without water or food and made to sit in their own feces.
I think they should do the same to the dog catchers and see how they like it :evil:
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Postby laphanphon » August 10, 2005, 4:00 pm

next time you buy a pair of gloves, hmm, cowhide or woof woof.

definitely not the dog's life we like to think of. man's best friend.
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Postby Prenders88 » August 10, 2005, 9:53 pm

There was a feature in the British newspapers some time ago about the dog meat trade in Thailand. Included were graphic pictures of dogs being skinned alive and thrown in a pot of boiling water to take the skins off more easily. The meat is then smoked, vacuum packed and sent all over S.E. Asia for comsumption. The trade is centred in Sakon Nakon.
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Postby BangkokButcher » August 11, 2005, 12:18 am

I'm in 2 minds about this one, I do not agree with the inhumane conditions that they must suffer prior to slaughter, but at the end of the day most western nations used to do the same to pigs, sheep and cows up until not so long ago when 'better' conditions sere stipulated by law.

I could never bring myself to eat dog meat, but in the UK we still kill and butcher horse's for the French marketplace, not that I could eat that either :roll:.

I'm sure things will change in time :?
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Postby Bandung_Dero » August 11, 2005, 7:07 am

Where I agree the practices of the dog traders is cruel at times, I sure that without them the K9 population in my village would be intolerable. One cannot walk the streets with their head up for fear of what we might step into. Most of the animals are vagerant and desease ridden. :x

Who would cull them without these traders?
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Postby valentine » August 11, 2005, 7:43 am

Whilst I abhore cruelty of any sort ,they are killing these animals for food
I think this practise says more about the nature of the Thai people that will on impulse buy a cuddly little puppy only to kick it out onto the streets a few months later,when it starts to grow, normally not so cuddly, then exchange it for a plastic washing up bowl, knowing what its fate will be.
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Postby admin » August 11, 2005, 8:20 am

I'm not against the killing of animals for food but I wish they could practice more humane ways of slaughter. I guess that it is difficult to be 100% humane when slaughtering an animal but there are ways to make the animal experience less pain and anxiety. Dogs are intelligent and have very good senses, they are looked after by humans who are sometimes good to them or not. But most dogs are very loyal to their owners and would protect them if they were in trouble. This is why it upsets me when I see these dogs being rounded up for their meat.

Maybe to solve the problem the government should educate the villages to get their pets doctored to avoid them having more pups. Maybe if they introduced a 30 baht card for the vets like the hospital card then maybe more people would get involved?

Valentine, it is not only Thailand that some people treat their dogs unkindly. I've heard of many cases in Europe and America about animal cruelty. Do you know the slogan 'a dog is for life not for Christmas
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Postby laphanphon » August 11, 2005, 8:40 am

definitely not a thai problem, just handled differently. most won't go for vet visits to fix the puppy problem, and with the buddhist 'thou shall not kill' even the lower species, that does create a problem of strays. the western world has that more humane way of rounding strays up and killing them. fur and meat going to waste, hmm. and the slaughter house could definitely be a little more humane, while they wait their turn. i'm not talking cable tv and sofas, but clean place with at least water to drink, actually beneficial to skin and meat production.

having pets for decades, i hate to see animals abused. but have to confess to donating a few trouble strays to the sakon nakon shuttle bus. got tired of picking up my trash everyday, either that or killing them myself, which, if i had to kill something, i'd be a vegitarian. again poison was out as meat and fur would go to waste. back to therapy.
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Postby Paul » August 11, 2005, 11:14 am

I for one would not be sorry to see the back of the poor raggedy soi dogs, and whilst I do pity of them, it surely would be better for all concerned to 'dispose' of them (humanely as possible). Starting with the obviously ill ones, then the strays.

What kind of life do they have with 3 legs, internal disorders, no fur, no food, terrified of anything that moves, kids who kick them when they pass on motorbike.

If you ever look at some of these dogs - will you ever see a sadder face? there is pain and sorrow in their eyes and maybe they wish they could get out of this miserable existence.

How many times have you heard an old person say "if I ever get in that state - put me out of my misery" ?
I think its the same for a dog - but they have to survive each day the best way they can.

I love dogs and always try to be kind to all the ones I see, but the situation at least in Udon has got way out of hand and needs controlling.
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Postby businessman » August 11, 2005, 11:17 am

The locals Vietnamese often sell them to a local lady with a kind heart who buys them for 5o baht a piece.
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Postby Dakoda » August 11, 2005, 2:49 pm

Hmm, interesting replies!

I guess you would have to come to my soi to understand, but if you are walking, be very careful after dark and forget it after midnight!

I happen to live next to a very irresponsible dog owner. He has already had to pay twice for his dogs biting someone. One evening, they ("the dogs") had a five or six year boy surrounded, and if I didn't intervine not sure what would have happened.

Just last night, "the dogs" and the pack that is hanging out here these days, did the same to maybe a 10+ year old, until I went out to see what f#@%^ was going on.

I happen to live across from a playground in the village, and so does the irresponsible dog owner. When I moved here he had three dogs and six puppies. Three of the puppies have disappeared, and the others are no longer puppies, the mother is in heat and so is one of the puppies, (guess reason every dog in the village are in the area these days), they seem to go home for lunch and others take their place!

The owner and his wife have no children and both work from 7 am to 7 pm, you just have to wonder; why!

Also just in case you wonder, the answer is yes, they run wild thru the soi, day & night!

Maybe the solution is a stiff license fee per dog!
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