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Re: US Health Care Plan

Postby rjj04 » December 29, 2010, 8:46 am

LoongLee wrote:Another report from a "satisfied customer" of National Health. This anecdotal input is from a US citizen working in Norway. I have added the (parens) for clarity. LL

"I am a resident of Virginia Beach (Virginia, US) working in a National Healthcare system country (Norway). The cost is not half of my cost in the US. I pay about twice as mush for health insurance here. Care not as good as in the US. But OK for most things. More and more people across Europe are purchasing "private plans" in addition to the national system to get around the problems. I have to get a bone chip in my foot taken care of. I am on an 8 month waiting list. After spending 2 months to get on the waiting list. I am looking into private insurance but then my monthly cost would be 4X what I pay in the US. My coverage here in Norway is about the same as most countries in Europe. Happy to answer any questions you may have in reguards to National Health Care"


1) Attributed to whom... how do I verify this statement?
2) Assuming the whole quote is not actually a fake... His/her own words "I am a resident of Virginia Beach"
Norweigan law... "everyone who is registered in the Population Register as resident in a Norwegian municipality." is entitled to health care.
Therefore it is likely he must pay for it out of pocket. I suspect that paying an employee sponsored HMO in the USA may be cheaper than paying for health care as a non-resident in Norway.
3) One "supposed" persons experience does not trump data showing otherwise as has been shown on this thread numerous times.
4) Having a bone chip in your foot is not a life threatening disease and I suspect he can struggle by for a few months. Or he can go back to the USA... WHERE HE IS A RESIDENT... and hope he can get health insurance because he now has a pre-existing problem and maybe the insurers there will not want him any more, or bump up his premium to an unaffordable level. It is all up in the air in the US system.
5) Apparently most of residents in the worlds developed countries respectfully disagree with the concept that Donald Trumps life is more valuable than Joe Blow who worked at a factory in Detroit for 20 years then was laidoff without any health care and could not find a job (because all the other factories were shipped off to China) to pay for the ridiculously priced health care in the USA. This, despite the fact that Joe Blow paid as much or more in taxes than those people in other countries who got free health care from their tax dollars..but I guess those wars in far off lands to protect Joe Blow from future harm were much more important than his present health care issues. Thus Joe Blow goes without treatment and dies in the street whilst Donald Trump lands his private helicopter on the best US hospital for his concierge health treatment.

6) The data says the US health care system is more expensive... PERIOD... some unverifiable anecdotal reference is ludicrous. The data shows that millions of Americans can not get health care... perhaps even this man/woman when they go back to the USA. But I guess if so many Americans can listen to Sarah Palin tell how the Flintstones was fact instead of just a cartoon, and believe it, then they can be believe just about any tripe spewed forth.
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Re: US Health Care Plan

Postby rjj04 » December 29, 2010, 9:28 am

"All persons that are not permanent residents of Norway will be personally responsible to compensate (pay) Ahus for any and all medical attention received. This includes Norwegian nationals residing (living) abroad. "

Here is the link in case, heaven forbid, someone actually wants to verify something...
http://www.helse-bergen.no/english/Side ... orway.aspx
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Re: US Health Care Plan

Postby rjj04 » December 29, 2010, 10:19 am

"The cost is not half of my cost in the US. I pay about twice as mush for health insurance here"

HIS cost is more because he is a NON-RESIDENT in a country with a system geared to its own CITIZENS and not to foreign nationals coming for a jaunt to work. He should have either become a resident, and thus receive free, and no doubt faster, health care service, or negotiate with his employer (the American way) and get them to pay for his "special" private health insurance. Comparing apples to oranges.

Equivocating...
He is talking about HIS cost, whilst HIS costs are in no way close to what the cost is to a Norwegian resident. The COST that people here on this thread are referring to is the total economic cost to the system, not to some special corner case.

Looking back at JimboPSM data posted before, total cost of Norwegian health care is 61% of the US cost. Of course "private" health care for those few "special" people in Norway is 123% of the US cost. So, please tell me how a single, hearsay, subjective, special case story supplants real data?






Subjective, hearsay, meaningless tripe!!
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