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'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby westerby » October 12, 2008, 2:56 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7665620.stm

Source: BBC

I'm interested in your views, especially the American ones.

Is it right that the US, acting under the auspices of NATO, should attack insurgents on Pakistani territory when Pakistan is an ally?
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby cyclist » October 13, 2008, 6:05 pm

Okay youv'e dangled the bait for 24 hrs with no takers,so I'll take the hook.

I'm English by the way and not American.

In the comfort and safety of my home perhaps 3,000 miles away I would say If It hits the right targets and helps bring an end to this so called War against terror,then just maybe it can be justified.

However,if it didn't hit the intended targets,or in doing so also took out innocents and I was one of those who suffered from such an attack,then I would definately have a different view on the matter. And America would have one more insurgent to try to kill
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby Khun Paul » October 13, 2008, 6:22 pm

Sounds like GPS went wrong again.............oh dear.
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby Pakawala » October 13, 2008, 6:36 pm

I too will take the bait... and I am an American. Let me first say, I didn't read the article at first because I am a firm believer that your beloved BBC is quite biased in dealing with the war effort and as such I don't put much (if any) value in what I read in this regard.

I have now read the article and immediately noticed 2 glaring points:
1. ...4 died in "suspected" missile attacks...
2. "They" say 2 unmanned US aircraft...

This is so typical - the glaring headline is US missiles kill Paki's, but then you read the article and find only suspected missile attacks and unidentified sources (they) as the one reporting.

Give me a break - do you really consider this journalism? =;
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby beer monkey » October 13, 2008, 7:43 pm

that your beloved BBC


Ermmmm the BBC is not everyones beloved.
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby JimboPSM » October 13, 2008, 8:41 pm

beer monkey wrote:
that your beloved BBC


Ermmmm the BBC is not everyones beloved.

The BBC is disliked by the left wing and the right wing; both the left and the right frequently lodge complaints of bias about BBC reporting - as a result, it is actually viewed by many in the UK as being "fair and balanced".

In my view the BBC seems to be more questioning (biased?) against whichever party is in power.

If you agree with the reporting of any news entity you will tend to view it as fair, if you don’t agree with its reporting you will tend to view it as biased :-k
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby jackspratt » October 13, 2008, 9:45 pm

Was westerby's OP about the BBC, or another issue? :-k
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby westerby » October 13, 2008, 10:27 pm

jackspratt wrote:Was westerby's OP about the BBC, or another issue? :-k


Maybe I should've quoted Fox News.

Is it right that the US, acting under the auspices of NATO, should attack insurgents on Pakistani territory when Pakistan is an ally?


I had no hidden agenda nor wanted to wind anyone up, just interested in people's views...
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby rick » October 14, 2008, 5:25 pm

I would agree with cyclist (Yes, another Brit). These attacks seem to be taking place about twice a week, with USA military refusing to comment. I think the problem is like a hydra, cut one head off, 2 more will appear, especially when civilians get killed (collateral damage does seem to be an american speciality). Killing terrorists is dealing with the symptom, not the disease, it is just a holding action. As for if these attacks are really happening and if innocent people are being killed, would you want to go in on the ground and check? In Afghanistan, enough mistakes are being made, so you can bet that it also happens in Pakistan.
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby UdonExpat » October 14, 2008, 6:44 pm

An American's POV on killing terrorists.

So, let's see. There's some of them thar raghead terrists over the border. Let's get 'um.

We're not sposed to cross the border. Who cares, it's only terrists and their little offspring and whores. Let's getum all.

OK, killed 12. 3 guys, 6 kids and 3 whores.

I'll bet we only created a 100 new terrists because they hate us doin this. Yup, we'll be in business for a long time.

Good work, guys!!
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby LoveDaBlues » October 15, 2008, 10:04 am

UdonExpat wrote:An American's POV on killing terrorists.

So, let's see. There's some of them thar raghead terrists over the border. Let's get 'um.

We're not sposed to cross the border. Who cares, it's only terrists and their little offspring and whores. Let's getum all.

OK, killed 12. 3 guys, 6 kids and 3 whores.

I'll bet we only created a 100 new terrists because they hate us doin this. Yup, we'll be in business for a long time.

Good work, guys!!



Did you remember to wipe the Red Man chew slobber off the front of your shirt when you wrote this?? =P~ :D
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby westerby » October 15, 2008, 6:48 pm

LoveDaBlues wrote:
UdonExpat wrote:An American's POV on killing terrorists.

So, let's see. There's some of them thar raghead terrists over the border. Let's get 'um.

We're not sposed to cross the border. Who cares, it's only terrists and their little offspring and whores. Let's getum all.

OK, killed 12. 3 guys, 6 kids and 3 whores.

I'll bet we only created a 100 new terrists because they hate us doin this. Yup, we'll be in business for a long time.

Good work, guys!!



Did you remember to wipe the Red Man chew slobber off the front of your shirt when you wrote this?? =P~ :D


Noted, LDB. An interesting attempt by Udon Expat to mimick one of your, 'ow you say, Rednecks?

Which is probably why Jack Spratt never dignified it with an answer! :lol:
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby BKKSTAN » October 17, 2008, 9:28 am

I really like liberal logic !The problem is never the terrorists and the fact that they cross the border for safe haven!The problem is that we create the terrorists or make them multiply because we pursue and strike at them!

The basis to this theory is flawed with with a ridiculous notion that we can win the hearts and minds of the locals that support and commune with the enemy!These people are already actively engaged AGAINST us and in SUPPORT of the ideals and goals of Al Queda and the Taliban!They will never support and join our side in the fight!

Don't you think it is about time to face up to these facts!

I would agree that the blatant killing of ''innocents'' in the attempts to kill active terrorists would promote hate and new terrorists,but the these Tribal areas are not ''innocents''!Get real!!! :fryingpan: :fryingpan:
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby bigwavedave » October 17, 2008, 11:49 am

"I really like liberal logic !The problem is never the terrorists and the fact that they cross the border for safe haven!The problem is that we create the terrorists or make them multiply because we pursue and strike at them!"

The problem is that GWB has spent so long doing his daddies dirty work he forgot about afghanistan and now look at the mess we're in!!! If Usa had persued bin laden (the man at the time who was behind the 9.11 attrocity) instead of giving him a 6 week head start,then this would be over by now and the world would be a safer place.... And you blame liberals for this stan!!!! Why did you (GWB and the conservatives)lead the charge into iraq again???? did you have intelligence bin laden had gone there??? so which ever way you try to blame liberals for this unfortunately the conservatives really messed it up...your government if it really cared about 9.11 should have single mindedly had one goal and no other of going and getting the people who did this to your country...and really going into iraq was the last place your troops should have been deployed!!!! only now is afghanistan a problem because the liberals have pointed out the mess.... it was that thing happeninmg that nobody was to talk about!!! i am even convinced that GWB will lead the charge into Iran before he gives the troops in afghanistan the support they truly deserve....

And yes i know biden and others (honest men) supported the war in iraq blah blah blah... he like all of us was lied to in order to get his and our support... Your government knew there was NO wmd in iraq, they knew al quaida was not linked to iraq, the terrorist were in afghanistan, do i have to go on!!! Who will be brought to justice for this???? (total silence).........

You may think this is anti american.. well its not ... but i cant believe that a country in the 21st century can allow the terrorist who did this to you to go unpunished and totally head off after another person like saddam hussain???? he was harmless to us and you!!!! whats most disturbing as a brit is nobody is actually asking or asked the question... GWB can do what he likes and say what he wants to justify it!!! nobody will ever ask the question... why did you let bin laden go and go into iraq when your duty to your country and your position was to hunt him down without distraction, spending the 10bn dollars a month to do it if needed??? Much better value for money i think1!!
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Re: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan town

Postby aznyron » October 17, 2008, 12:02 pm

Stan your post reminds me of the Colombian & mexican MAFIA kill every one in the house women & children to get one man this is why even the Italian mafia removes them selfs from those idiots
so go after taliban in Pakistan and killing innocent people is acceptable to you and you wonder why the USA does not have to many friends left in the world because of GWB BTW it was not the talaban that took down WTC & also it was not Saddam Hussien & Bin Laden so who really took down the WTC ?
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