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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by Lone Star » April 20, 2019, 9:27 am



Mueller Investigation Ends - The Real Investigation Begins


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Post by Lone Star » April 20, 2019, 10:02 am

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Mueller's report looks bad for Obama

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Number One: Who was in charge of protecting America's elections from Russian interference between 2009 and 2016?
The partisan warfare over the Mueller report will rage, but one thing cannot be denied: Former President Barack Obama looks just plain bad. On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it.
In fact, Obama, in a press conference, laughed about how difficult it is to affect an election because of the Electoral College and each state tabulating their own votes. There is not a central vote-counting facility.
The Mueller report flatly states that Russia began interfering in American democracy in 2014. Over the next couple of years, the effort blossomed into a robust attempt to interfere in our 2016 presidential election. The Obama administration knew this was going on and yet did nothing. In 2016, Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" and "knock it off" as they drew up plans to "strike back" against the Russians, according to an account from Michael Isikoff and David Corn in their book "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump".
Susan Rice. Remember her? All the unmasking of US citizens. Five-time liar about Benghazi on all the networks. The CYA memo to self on Trump's first day in office. Yeah, her.
Why did Obama go soft on Russia? My opinion is that it was because he was singularly focused on the nuclear deal with Iran. Obama wanted Putin in the deal, and to stand up to him on election interference would have, in Obama's estimation, upset that negotiation. This turned out to be a disastrous policy decision.

Obama's supporters claim he did stand up to Russia by deploying sanctions after the election to punish them for their actions. But, Obama, according to the Washington Post, "approved a modest package... with economic sanctions so narrowly targeted that even those who helped design them describe their impact as largely symbolic." In other words, a toothless response to a serious incursion.

But don't just take my word for it that Obama failed. Congressman Adam Schiff, who disgraced himself in this process by claiming collusion when Mueller found that none exists, once said that "the Obama administration should have done a lot more." The Washington Post reported that a senior Obama administration official said they "sort of choked" in failing to stop the Russian government's brazen activities. And Obama's ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, said, "The punishment did not fit the crime" about the weak sanctions rolled out after the 2016 election.
Obama has a history of "voting present." These sanctions and actions had the same effect -- pretty much zero.
A legitimate question Republicans are asking is whether the potential "collusion" narrative was invented to cover up the Obama administration's failures. Two years have been spent fomenting the idea that Russia only interfered because it had a willing, colluding partner: Trump. Now that Mueller has popped that balloon, we must ask why this collusion narrative was invented in the first place.

Given Obama's record on Russia, one operating theory is that his people needed a smokescreen to obscure just how wrong they were. They've blamed Trump. They've even blamed Mitch McConnell, in some twisted attempt to deflect blame to another branch of government. Joe Biden once claimed McConnell refused to sign a letter condemning the Russians during the 2016 election. But McConnell's office counters that the White House asked him to sign a letter urging state electors to accept federal help in securing local elections -- and he did. You can read it here.

I guess if I had failed to stop Russia from marching into Crimea, making a mess in Syria, and hacking our democracy I'd be looking to blame someone else, too.
Yes, Crimea, Syria, Russian hacking, and many other disasters happened on Bayrack's watch.
But the Mueller report makes it clear that the Russian interference failure was Obama's alone. He was the commander-in-chief when all of this happened. In 2010, he and Eric Holder, his Attorney General, declined to prosecute Julian Assange, who then went on to help Russia hack the Democratic National Committee's emails in 2016. He arguably chose to prioritize his relationship with Putin vis-à-vis Iran over pushing back against Russian election interference that had been going on for at least two years.

If you consider Russian election interference a crisis for our democracy, then you cannot read the Mueller report, adding it to the available public evidence, and conclude anything other than Barack Obama spectacularly failed America. Subsequent investigations of this matter should explore how and why Obama's White House failed, and whether they invented the collusion narrative to cover up those failures.
There's an old saying that warns, "Be careful what you wish for ..."

Democrats and the Cabal inside the DOJ/FBI has now unleashed an investigation with real evidence that is set to backfire all over them. AG Barr is in charge now.
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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by Lone Star » April 21, 2019, 7:45 am



Michael Caputo contacted by FBI Informant

Feds ran assets into the Trump Campaign in search of a crime -- not to investigate a crime.
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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by Lone Star » April 22, 2019, 10:48 am



Great Insight from Byron York and Mark Levin

The Mueller Report was a huge 'never mind.'
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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by Lone Star » June 23, 2019, 1:37 pm

Looks like several things are on the way to being revealed or have been revealed in past weeks.

- State Department uncovers over two dozen Hillary-related violations in State Department communications

- The UK, Australia and Italy conducted spying on US citizens while overseas who were also connected to the Trump campaign. The CIA would not have been able to spy on these individuals due to rights protecting their privacy on US soil, so all of the targets were lured overseas.

- At least five operatives were run at George Papadopoulos and Carter Page. Names documented.

- State Department employee interviewed Christopher Steele (former UK employee) and notified FBI of his bias and unsubstantiated claims before his dossier was used for FISA Warrants. FBI ignored the warnings from State and from Bruce Ohr and went ahead using the dossier.

- The same dossier that Comey said was unsubstantiated and salacious -- to both Congress and to Trump -- was used weeks earlier to get surveillance warrants. The FISA Court ain't happy.

- Several instances within the Mueller Report where quoted transcripts were edited, which greatly affected the context of the transcript. The quotes in the report were compared against government transcripts.

- Several instances within the Mueller Report where exculpatory evidence was excluded from the report, present in the raw notes.

- Before sentencing, Lt. General Michael Flynn fires his counsel and hires Sidney Powell. Get ready for an upheaval of this case. SIdney don't play.

- Mueller report claims that Joseph Mifsud is a Russian operative, but there is nothing in his background to suggest such. He was a CIA/FBI asset in the past and was one of the five operatives run at George Papadopoulos.

- Trump has given AG Barr declassification authority on ALL documents related to the investigation that turned up nothing on Trump. All departments within the Executive Branch have been ordered to cooperate with Barr.

- FBI Director Robert Wray has been stonewalling with FOIA requests and Barr's investigation. He appears to be trying to protect the FBI from embarrassment, but that's the point of the investigation -- unearth all of the illegal and unethical actions taken by the Bureau.

There's a walk-in closet full of shoes getting ready to drop. There's so much happening that it's hard to keep up.

What Mueller's Report really says: While we found no evidence that Trump stole any horses, Trump is obviously guilty of rejecting being hanged for it.

With Mueller's new standard for guilt and innocence in America -- we could find no evidence that a crime was NOT committed -- Americans should be fully prepared to be arrested for something. Quite Stalinesque.
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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by Lone Star » June 26, 2019, 11:23 am

Tomorrow, emails between others and Samantha Power, Obama's UN Ambassador, will be released. Power is responsible for HUNDREDS of unmasking requests (over 300) in the waning days of the Obama Administration. These unmasking requests are odd since Power has no investigative role that would involve unmaskings. She was the US ambassador to the UN.

Additionally, Power's emails reflect the same bias against Trump that occurred in the text messages between FBI members of the Coup Cabal.

In past testimony before Congress, Power said she did not make the requests and that someone may have done it in her name -- but her emails do not reflect that.

Unmasking requests are highly sensitive and logged -- whether the unmasking is approved or not. Someone is going to have a big problem. If not Power, then whoever approved the unmasking for someone else in Power's name.

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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by Lone Star » June 26, 2019, 1:51 pm

Bob Mueller.

He has been subpoenaed to testify before the House Democrat Circus.

What the ignorant do not understand about this entire process is that Mueller's Report is the final say. It was delivered to Mueller's boss, Attorney General Barr in an incomplete format. Barr made the final decision regarding the findings of the report.

If Mueller ADDS anything to his report that is not contained in the report, his credibility is shot. The Report will be rendered meaningless. If so important, why was it withheld from the report?

There is also another issue relative to guilt and innocence in the US. It is not the role of a prosecutor to determine innocence. They either prosecute, or there is nothing to report. Americans' reputations are not hauled in front of the media to examine everything they did unless they are charged. Trump was not charged.

"While Trump may have not stolen any horses, we think he intended to steal horses, tried to hide that fact, and then objected to being hanged for something he didn't do."

Yeah, that's Mueller's new gauge for justice.

Had obstruction occurred, Mueller would have recommended charges. A sitting president cannot be indicted, but nothing prevented Mueller from recommending charges as Ken Starr did when he was a Special Prosecutor investigating Clinton. Starr recommended almost a dozen charges.

If Trump didn’t act even within his own authority over an investigation that proved no core crime, how can he have obstructed? Wanting to do something and not doing it, doesn't constitute a crime. To have thoughts and ideas that are never acted upon don't constitute a crime. Even if just trying to prove a conspiracy, there must be ONE ACT taken by the accused to further their mission toward committing the crime.

In the case of Comey, firing him didn't end the investigation. It continued. Nothing was obstructed.

Mueller and AG Barr BOTH admit that Trump fully cooperated with the investigation in every way. Documents were turned over. All witnesses were allowed to meet with the Special Counsel. Trump did not even claim 'executive privilege' in any matter concerning the investigation.

As AG Barr pointed out, Trump's discussions of firing and ending anything were all a result of his outrage over being investigated based on no evidence and partisan hate. Trump could have ended it all whenever he wanted to do it. He could have fired Mueller and ended it all. Legally. Trump allowed it to proceed to its final conclusion. No conspiracy. No obstruction.

Couple of things to keep in mind:

1. The questions Democrats want answered are in the report already. If Mueller elaborates, he and his investigation and report have a big problem. It won't look so good for Mueller.

2. The questions Republicans want answered are NOT in the report. They will ask why Mueller ignored information when evidence took his team to that path. Mueller CAN answer those or just refuse, which will then not look so good for Mueller.

3. Mueller has already walked back his statement about not charging Trump because he is a sitting POTUS. Mueller told Barr three times in their meetings that his not charging Trump had only to do with the vagueness of the law and not enough evidence. It had nothing to do with not being able to charge a sitting president. Barr and Mueller released a joint statement after Mueller's press conference stating such.

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Post by Lone Star » June 27, 2019, 1:33 pm



Alan Dershowitz, Democrat, Harvard Law Professor, Author, Attorney and Hillary supporter and voter AGREES WITH ME.

You can't be subpoenaing prosecutors and asking them why they did NOT prosecute someone.

Mueller is in a trickbag.
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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by tamada » June 28, 2019, 4:37 am

Lone Star wrote:
June 26, 2019, 11:23 am
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Unmasking requests are highly sensitive and logged -- whether the unmasking is approved or not. Someone is going to have a big problem. If not Power, then whoever approved the unmasking for someone else in Power's name.
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Or whoever hacked or spoofed her email account maybe? The 'security' of us.gov servers are already the stuff of legend, probably only surpassed by the sublimely ignorant public servants that use them. They really should buy more Huawei hardware and just get over themselves.

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Post by Lone Star » June 28, 2019, 7:52 am

More information came out in the last 24 hours via John Solomon of The Hill.

There was a 350% INCREASE in unmasking requests in the Obama Administration in 2016 -- a national election year.
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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by tamada » June 28, 2019, 12:34 pm

Lone Star wrote:
June 28, 2019, 7:52 am
More information came out in the last 24 hours via John Solomon of The Hill.

There was a 350% INCREASE in unmasking requests in the Obama Administration in 2016 -- a national election year.
You're not suggesting Obama was colluding with Putin are you? I mean, who else would benefit from knowing who the spooks are?

Anyhoo... is there any correlation between the amount of unmasking requests and the amount of actually fulfilled unmaskings?

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Post by tamada » June 28, 2019, 12:39 pm

Lone Star wrote:
June 26, 2019, 1:51 pm
.. It was delivered to Mueller's boss, Attorney General Barr in an incomplete format. ...
And there's y'all talking about ignorance.

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Post by Lone Star » June 28, 2019, 12:43 pm

tamada wrote:
June 28, 2019, 12:39 pm
Lone Star wrote:
June 26, 2019, 1:51 pm
.. It was delivered to Mueller's boss, Attorney General Barr in an incomplete format. ...
And there's y'all talking about ignorance.
The Special Counsel answers to the Attorney General. Before Barr was confirmed, Mueller got his marching orders from Asst. AG Rod Rosenstein.

When the report was complete, the Special Counsel handed it over to his boss -- the Attorney General. Barr did not have to release any of it, nor was he bound to even comment on it.

The report was incomplete in that Mueller would not reach a decision on obstruction and left it up to the Department of Justice. Barr and Rosenstein and the DOJ Legal Counsel found no obstruction.
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Post by Lone Star » June 28, 2019, 12:45 pm

tamada wrote:
June 28, 2019, 12:34 pm
Lone Star wrote:
June 28, 2019, 7:52 am
More information came out in the last 24 hours via John Solomon of The Hill.

There was a 350% INCREASE in unmasking requests in the Obama Administration in 2016 -- a national election year.
You're not suggesting Obama was colluding with Putin are you? I mean, who else would benefit from knowing who the spooks are?

Anyhoo... is there any correlation between the amount of unmasking requests and the amount of actually fulfilled unmaskings?
If I had a guess, I would have said so. The increase of that magnitude in an election year is staggering considering all that has been learned thus far about the Coup Cabal atop Obama's DOJ/FBI/CIA.
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Re: Did Clinton email faux pas cost 20 agents lives?

Post by tamada » June 29, 2019, 1:47 pm

Lone Star wrote:
June 28, 2019, 12:43 pm
tamada wrote:
June 28, 2019, 12:39 pm
Lone Star wrote:
June 26, 2019, 1:51 pm
.. It was delivered to Mueller's boss, Attorney General Barr in an incomplete format. ...
And there's y'all talking about ignorance.
The Special Counsel answers to the Attorney General. Before Barr was confirmed, Mueller got his marching orders from Asst. AG Rod Rosenstein.

When the report was complete, the Special Counsel handed it over to his boss -- the Attorney General. Barr did not have to release any of it, nor was he bound to even comment on it.

The report was incomplete in that Mueller would not reach a decision on obstruction and left it up to the Department of Justice. Barr and Rosenstein and the DOJ Legal Counsel found no obstruction.
The report was complete in every literal and legal sense. It took long enough!

As Special Counsel, it was never in Mueller's remit to make or announce any decision. His job was only to report his findings in the otherwise 100% complete report. He did comment that although he found nothing to prove there was any collusion, he hadn't found anything to rule out collusion. Fundamentally an open verdict that was quickly and somewhat predictably claimed by DJT and his sycophants as a 'yuge' statement of innocence.

Mueller's inability to 100% rule out any collusion was probably due to being unable to pursue certain avenues of investigation towards the end as the digging got deeper. This through a combination of obfuscation and blatant stiff-middle-fingering to legal due process by certain entities which was openly approved by the White House, albeit mostly by tweet. In that regard, his report was a complete as it was ever going to be allowed to get.

If partisan insensibilities precluded the AG from making a non-partisan decision, then there's bugger all can be done about it and as Sonny & Cher sang, 'The Beat Goes On.'

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Post by Lone Star » June 29, 2019, 2:06 pm

tamada wrote:
June 29, 2019, 1:47 pm

. . .

As Special Counsel, it was never in Mueller's remit to make or announce any decision. His job was only to report his findings in the otherwise 100% complete report.
True. However, his report was complete as far as Mueller was concerned, but shocking that there could be no finding regarding obstruction. That was Mueller's job to find one way or the other. If there is no finding of wrongdoing in a criminal investigation in the US, there is no parsing of words or "maybes" or "might haves." There's nothing. Mueller left it up to Barr, Mueller's boss, on the issue of obstruction. Case closed.
He did comment that although he found nothing to prove there was any collusion, he hadn't found anything to rule out collusion. Fundamentally an open verdict that was quickly and somewhat predictably claimed by DJT and his sycophants as a 'yuge' statement of innocence.
Not true. In fact, Mueller's report stated that there were several attempts to entice Trump campaign members into conspiracy and all advances were rejected. Also, several Russian firms/individuals were charged by Mueller, and Mueller's investigation found that NO American -- in or out of Trump's campaign -- were involved with them. There was no American charged with working with Russia on election interference.

It's not Mueller's job or any other prosecutor in the US to say that "there's a possibility that this person committed crimes, but we couldn't find any evidence." That ain't how justice works in America for anyone.
Mueller's inability to 100% rule out any collusion was probably due to being unable to pursue certain avenues of investigation towards the end as the digging got deeper.
Mueller was given almost unlimited scope. Taxi medallions, bank loan applications, working as foreign lobbyists, etc. Had Mueller been limited in scope, none of that would have been part of the investigation.
This through a combination of obfuscation and blatant stiff-middle-fingering to legal due process by certain entities which was openly approved by the White House, albeit mostly by tweet. In that regard, his report was a complete as it was ever going to be allowed to get.
Mueller was denied nothing by the White House. Not one thing. And both Mueller and Barr stated that Trump was completely transparent and provided everything -- witnesses, documents, etc. Trump did not exercise one instance of Executive Privilege in the entire investigation.
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Post by jackspratt » June 29, 2019, 2:19 pm

Hmmm.....
One key way in which Trump failed to cooperate was by denying Mueller an in-person interview.

Mueller and his team sought for more than a year to personally talk to the president — but they were ultimately rebuffed. Instead, the special counsel eventually agreed to accept Trump’s written answers to questions.

But Trump’s written responses were "inadequate," Mueller said, and contained dozens of instances where Trump claimed not to recall the information sought by the special counsel. Mueller also noted that Trump declined to answer questions about obstruction of justice, or questions on events that occurred during the presidential transition.

Here’s how the report describes the back-and-forth with Trump’s personal counsel:

Mueller: "We informed counsel of the insufficiency of those responses in several respects. We noted, among other things, that the President stated on more than 30 occasions that he ‘does not recall’ or ‘remember’ or have an ‘independent recollection’ of information called for by the questions. Other answers were ‘incomplete or imprecise.’ "

Because the written exchange gave investigators "no opportunity to ask follow-up questions," Mueller’s team again requested an in-person interview. Once again, Trump declined.

Ultimately, Mueller concluded, "We viewed the written answers to be inadequate."

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Post by Lone Star » June 29, 2019, 2:26 pm

Mueller could have gone to court if he was truly convinced of criminal activity on the part of the president.

I guess Mueller knew he would lose in court if he tried to compel a sitting POTUS to interview when there was no crime connected to the president. It was an investigation into a person in search of a crime. Cart before the horse. Only an idiot would walk into a perjury trap.
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Post by jackspratt » June 29, 2019, 2:35 pm

Lone Star wrote:
June 29, 2019, 2:06 pm

Mueller was denied nothing by the White House. Not one thing
So we know that bit is not correct.
And both Mueller and Barr stated that Trump was completely transparent and provided everything -- witnesses, documents, etc.
Barr may have stated that, but I can't find any evidence that Mueller said so. In fact, the bits I quoted earlier from his report would seem to contradict that.

But I am sure you can clear it up by providing a link to where Mueller is quoted as saying Trump "was completely transparent, and provided everything".

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Post by Lone Star » June 29, 2019, 3:16 pm

The crimes of conspiracy and obstruction BOTH require the participation of at least one other person. In the US, it's up to the prosecution to prove the crime, NOT the accused (and Trump was never accused) to prove innocence. Mueller had access to everyone, including the White House Counsel -- to be able to find their evidence. I guess there was no one who could provide Mueller with what he so desperately wanted to hear.

It's up to the Democrat-controlled House to move forward with impeachment if they don't like the result, but even the lead investigator is quoted as saying "There's no there there."

Democrats are never going to let it go. They're like a puppy with a sock. They'll interview Mueller publicly -- only one question each (another waste of time); and they'll interview one or more members of his investigative team behind closed doors.

If the Democrats don't impeach (they need the Senate to convict), I fully expect Democrats to beat this dead horse all the way up to November 2020. GET TRUMP is their strategy. They have nothing in their platform to improve the lives of Americans without penalizing other Americans. "You there. Pay for John's health care. You there. Pay for Mary's house. You there. Pay for Mike's college. You there. Pay for Jane's abortion."

It's all politics.
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