Miscellaneous COVID-19/Corona Virus Discussion, Questions, etc.

[tamada]

^ I don't have details on the south pacific island cruise that had a Covid-19 case but the Norwegian one with several cases was one of those explorer type cruises where it's all about not being cooped up on a ship and eating buffets. Everyone's off in groups annoying penguins or kayaking or skiing and it was around Svalbard which isn't exactly a hub of anything. The Norwegians are all over this like a rash though and due to the group nature of the tour, hope to back track to who brought it onboard. An asymptomatic carrier maybe? Another mutation?

[vincemunday]

‪Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Tuesday:‬
‪3,321 people infected (+1)‬
‪3,142 discharged from hospital (+0)‬
‪121 in hospital ‬
‪58 dead (+0)‬

‪The 1 new case is a Russian in state quarantine who returned from abroad. ‬

[vincemunday]

‪Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Wednesday:‬
‪3,328 people infected (+7)‬
‪3,144 discharged from hospital (+2)‬
‪126 in hospital ‬
‪58 dead (+0)‬

‪6 new cases are Thais in state quarantine who returned from UAE (1) and Egypt (5). One foreigner in ASQ who returned from US.‬

[vincemunday]

‪Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Thursday:‬
‪3,330 people infected (+2)‬
‪3,148 discharged from hospital (+4)‬
‪124 in hospital ‬
‪58 dead (+0)‬

‪The 2 new cases are Thais in state quarantine who returned from the US. No local cases for 73 days. ‬

[vincemunday]

‪Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Friday‬
‪3,345 people infected (+15)‬
‪3,148 discharged from hospital (+0)‬
‪139 in hospital ‬
‪58 dead (+0)‬

‪The 15 new cases are Thais in state quarantine who returned from Egypt (4), Saudi Arabia (10) and Japan (1)‬

[Barney]

It must be a worry that all the new cases are in state quarantine.
I thought returning Thais had to have a COVID test medical certificate before boarding.
Are they providing BS certificates and infecting other passengers?


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[Doodoo]

English version Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/vi ... SEARCH_BOX

[samster]

It must be a worry that all the new cases are in state quarantine.
I thought returning Thais had to have a COVID test medical certificate before boarding.
Are they providing BS certificates and infecting other passengers?


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As far as the UK is concerned, there is no requirement for a specific Covid test for Thai nationals, just a fit to fly. Falang require both tests.

[Doodoo]

August 5th
‘NO IMMEDIATE PLAN’ TO PERMIT MORE FOREIGNERS INTO THAILAND
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

August 4th
"Hotels urged to end dual pricing scheme
Government eager to lure expats"
The Tourism and Sports Ministry

August 6th
"Tourism-reliant Thailand shelves 'travel bubble' plan as Asia virus cases rise"
From Thailand’s coronavirus taskforce

August 6th
Tourism operators are proposing a new inbound tourism plan, called Safe and Sealed, to replace travel bubbles and keep Thailand from realising the worst-case revenue scenario of 675 billion baht next year, down from 3.01 trillion baht in 2019.

So in the past 4 days 4 suggestions regarding the Tourists of Thailand


Confusion seems to have set in???

[Khun Paul]

Plus of course the NEWS today is Two of the larger Tour organiser companies shutting their DOORS permanently .

[Barney]

It must be a worry that all the new cases are in state quarantine.
I thought returning Thais had to have a COVID test medical certificate before boarding.
Are they providing BS certificates and infecting other passengers?


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As far as the UK is concerned, there is no requirement for a specific Covid test for Thai nationals, just a fit to fly. Falang require both tests.

Thanks samster I didn’t realize there were 2 certs for non Thais.
The “fit to fly” for Thai passport holders within the prior 72 hours which is stamped by the relevant Thai embassy must surely indicate that COVID is not present. No boarding pass without this.
But my point was that even with a “fit to fly” a number of people are still turning up in BKK and found in quarantine with the virus.


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[vincemunday]

‪Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Saturday:‬
‪3,348 people infected (+3)‬
‪3,150 discharged from hospital (+2)‬
‪140 in hospital ‬
‪58 dead (+0)‬

‪The 3 new cases are Thais in state quarantine who returned from Saudi Arabia (2) and Indonesia (1)‬

[tamada]

It must be a worry that all the new cases are in state quarantine.
I thought returning Thais had to have a COVID test medical certificate before boarding.
Are they providing BS certificates and infecting other passengers?


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As far as the UK is concerned, there is no requirement for a specific Covid test for Thai nationals, just a fit to fly. Falang require both tests.

Thanks samster I didn’t realize there were 2 certs for non Thais.
The “fit to fly” for Thai passport holders within the prior 72 hours which is stamped by the relevant Thai embassy must surely indicate that COVID is not present. No boarding pass without this.
But my point was that even with a “fit to fly” a number of people are still turning up in BKK and found in quarantine with the virus.


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The 'fit-to-fly 'certificate is primarily required by the airline. I think the Thai authorities, like many others, realized that for their own returning nationals, a PCR test done several hours or days before flying possibly via several airports on several aircraft was a bit redundant. However, like many other countries, they retained it as a requirement for foreigners returning to Thailand where everyone gets tested on arrival and then enters quarantine.

If one is needed to depart Thailand (and I think most airlines will require this), it will be provided on request and in addition to any PVR -ve test result.

[samster]

I dont know how many commercial flights are coming in every day. But, conservatively, if its 3 then that's 1000 people. Statistically, it's not surprising that there are positive tests

[tamada]

^ I was looking at flights earlier in the week and the average was around 30 flights/day.

KLM looks like a frequent visitor. As well as direct r/t flights from/to Amsterdam, on some days they also hop to Manila or Kuala Lumpur or Jakarta so they do a morning stop in BKK on the outbound leg and the second BKK stopover inbound to AMS in the evening.

FWIW, I priced some r/t flights to the UK for next week and Finnair via Helsinki was about 22k baht, Lufthansa via Frankfurt about 32k baht and KLM via Hamsterjam around 34k baht.

[sometimewoodworker]

I dont know how many commercial flights are coming in every day. But, conservatively, if its 3 then that's 1000 people. Statistically, it's not surprising that there are positive tests

Don’t forget that most inbound flights are primarily cargo they may have Some passengers as well.

[samster]

There are 3 repatriation flights per month from the UK as well as separate flights bringing other groups. Assuming there are 30 nations operating such flights (conservatively), that will soon get you up to 3 a day on average.

[sometimewoodworker]

There are 3 repatriation flights per month from the UK as well as separate flights bringing other groups. Assuming there are 30 nations operating such flights (conservatively), that will soon get you up to 3 a day on average.

Just because it’s a repatriation flight doesn’t stop it from being a primary cargo flight and just because the capacity is 300~400 people doesn’t mean that it’s going to be full, so even if there are 3 + flights a day unless you know how many passengers are actually on them you have little more information.

So stating that there are around 1,000 people per day arriving is total guess work with little data. It could be true, it could be wrong. Does the government have quarantine accommodation for 14,000? Maybe, maybe not.

Is it important?

[vincemunday]

‪Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Sunday:‬
‪3,351 people infected (+3)‬
‪3,151 discharged from hospital (+1)‬
‪142 in hospital ‬
‪58 dead (+0)‬

‪The 3 new cases are 1 Thai and two foreigners in state quarantine who returned from Bangladesh (1), India (1) and US (1). ‬

[samster]

Is it important?

The subject matter arose as to the numbers of positive tests in arrivals from overseas and I pointed out why.

Is it important? Is anything really important on a forum in the arse end of the world? Well it was to me as my partner returned on a repatriation flight yesterday.

By the way, yes there are incoming passenger flights which are full coming in. Personal experience tells me that. As for my guestimate of the number of flights, this is reasonable and conservative and, again, based on personal research given that I had a vested interest.