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Post by vincemunday » April 5, 2020, 10:11 pm

We are able to strike our own trade deals, while we are still a part of the single market we are free to trade elsewhere.

Brexit: What trade deals has the UK done so far? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842
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Post by vincemunday » April 5, 2020, 10:19 pm

Insofar as the PPE It depends who you believe, there’s no guessing which way your loyalties lie Stats, all I do know is the UK has the biggest critical care unit in the world and the EU can’t even keep pace with the requirements of Spain, Italy and Greece but I suppose Germany is okay, no one is denying we need more PPE though.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/eur ... rkers.html

https://www.icn.ch/news/high-proportion ... nurses-and
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I think the UK and many other western governments have spectacularly failed to protect their citizens and that the history books will be very harsh about this. The threat of pandemics was well known. There was time to respond well to corina 19. South Korea shows that.

The Americans are kind of excused because they have Trump who is widely recognized outside the Fox News bubble as a f ... moron. Even if the rest of the American government was awesomely prepared, he'd duff it.
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I just heard on the radio Johnson has been admitted to hospital.
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Post by tinpeeba » April 6, 2020, 3:30 am

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests, 10 days after testing positive for coronavirus, Downing Street has said.

Mr Johnson "continues to have persistent symptoms of coronavirus", a spokeswoman said.

It was described as a "precautionary step" taken on the advice of his doctor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52177125

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The Americans are kind of excused because they have Trump who is widely recognized outside the Fox News bubble as a f ... moron. Even if the rest of the American government was awesomely prepared, he'd duff it.
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Post by sometimewoodworker » April 6, 2020, 8:46 am

Yesterday was the first day since March 14th that the increase In deaths has dropped into a single digit percentage. This is not good news just less bad.
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Post by Stantheman » April 6, 2020, 8:57 am

STWW, with this thread about 2 countries would help if you said which country your chart represents

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Post by Chuchi » April 6, 2020, 9:07 am

Giggle wrote:
April 4, 2020, 8:05 pm
Things looking grim in the UK -- expect the anti-Trump rhetoric to ratchet-up.
Not from me Giggle and I’m a Brit , the blame definitely lies with the Chinese Authorities and the WHO .I see China has only recently started Asymptomatic testing.

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Nor from me either, the Chinese are 100% to blame here and I agree with Chuchi that the WHO have handled this very badly
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Post by GT93 » April 6, 2020, 10:15 am

:shock:

The British government is responsible for protecting British residents from pandemics. The Singaporean government is responsible for protecting its residents from pandemics. The Singaporeans seem to have been very well prepared. Why weren't other governments?

Many of them have let their residents down very very badly. We must be better prepared for the next pandemic. This won't be the last one.
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Post by sometimewoodworker » April 6, 2020, 1:56 pm

Stantheman wrote:
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STWW, with this thread about 2 countries would help if you said which country your chart represents
The chart above your question is world, and it’s really obvious.

Is the chart is not World I post the country or it’s in the picture.
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Post by stattointhailand » April 6, 2020, 6:51 pm

anybody got Del boys phone number I can see a nice little earner in fake CV19 immunity certificates ...... this time next year were gonna be miwionaires

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Post by GT93 » April 7, 2020, 3:20 am

Perhaps Trump should hold a national day of sin. The prayer stunt doesn't seem to have worked.
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Post by tinpeeba » April 7, 2020, 3:21 am

Boris Johnson moved to intensive care as symptoms 'worsen'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604

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Post by Giggle » April 7, 2020, 3:42 am

When BoJo goes hooves up watch these Trump-haters spiral out of control.
It's the most irrational, illogical, ridiculous confluence of events which sets them off.

It'll be a frenzy.
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Post by stattointhailand » April 7, 2020, 11:09 pm

vincemunday wrote:
April 4, 2020, 9:20 pm
stattointhailand wrote:
April 4, 2020, 9:16 pm
Do try to keep up giggle ......... the UK is still in the EU until the transition period ends (although they do not get a vote), and as such has already been offered assistance if they need it
Sorry Stats we are not still in the EU, we have left

“Following a general election, Parliament ratified the withdrawal agreement, and the UK left the EU at 11 p.m. GMT on 31 January 2020. ... The UK remains subject to EU law and remains part of the EU customs union and single market during the transition, but is no longer part of the EU's political bodies or institutions.”

But why would we ask the EU for help, we are way ahead of the game and they can’t even support Italy, Spain and Greece so why would they support a non EU country even if they were
Probobly coz we are unable to do it by ourselves .......

UK govt does "about turn" and turns to EU for support to get over 1000 of her citizens home using the EU civil protection mechanism to organise repatriation flights

https://www.ft.com/content/1bf986e6-ae9 ... 3e61754ec6

UK govt does "about turn" and now agrees to accept GBP 50Billion aid from EU

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21O0SX

I wonder if we can change our minds about those 50 thousand ventilators?

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Post by GT93 » April 8, 2020, 9:50 am

World-leading disease data analysts have projected that the UK will become the country worst hit by the coronavirus pandemic in Europe, accounting for more than 40% of total deaths across the continent.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) in Seattle predicts 66,000 UK deaths from Covid-19 by August, with a peak of nearly 3,000 a day, based on a steep climb in daily deaths early in the outbreak.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... y-predicts

Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, thinks the figures are wrong. Let's hope so. Nevertheless something seems to have gone wrong at the science - politics interface in the UK. This didn't happen in some other first world countries.

No doubt once we have all been through the current crisis there will be in depth investigations to determine what might be done better. That will involve considering what happened in other countries that got through the pandemic better.
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