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Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 17, 2020, 10:42 am

What are Canada and China up to with these dangerous items including sending this to China 'The other pathogen was henipavirus, an emerging family of bugs that inspired the Hollywood thriller Contagion, and which in real life has killed up to 100 per cent of people infected."

https://nationalpost.com/news/canadian- ... lth-agency (this was last year)

Here is an update from yesterday,'Canadian scientist sent deadly viruses to Wuhan lab months before RCMP asked to investigate'. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.5609582

This does not look good.


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Post by papafarang » June 18, 2020, 8:30 am

Does that mean the Canadian government are suppressing scientists studying these viruses . Why is the government of America seeking to hide research into Corona virus ?. They have even accused China of trying to hack their research , surely all governments should be sharing any information with all scientists so we can speed up some kind of vaccine ?
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 18, 2020, 9:24 am

As you are aware, the Chinese government cannot be trusted; therefore, it is extremely irresponsible to send such dangerous materials to an arm of the Chinese military. Who knows what the Chinese government will do with this stuff. Furthermore, you will note that the first batch was sent to Wuhan prior to the existence of the Wuhan Flu (National Post article). Oh wait, it was sent in August 2019 so the virus might have already been in existence although the Government of China would not have alerted the world.
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Doodoo » June 18, 2020, 9:36 am

No Government can be trusted China Canada USA Russia .....
If you disagree please name me a Government you can trust?

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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by papafarang » June 18, 2020, 10:04 am

But of course they all are all turning them into weapons ,labs would be useless if they didn't. The who idea is to create vaccines and to do that you need the nastiest most deadly forms of the virus ,without it you can't create a vaccine . Every sensible person knows that. Scientists and governments know there will never be a virus attack ,self defeating global extinction level event. But we still need vaccines for all the viruses .unless people think the Chinese race should be wiped out ?
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by mech_401 » June 18, 2020, 10:22 am

industrial espionage , or in this case scientific
espionage. we've had more than a few cases

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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 19, 2020, 2:32 am

papafarang wrote:
June 18, 2020, 10:04 am
But of course they all are all turning them into weapons ,labs would be useless if they didn't. The who idea is to create vaccines and to do that you need the nastiest most deadly forms of the virus ,without it you can't create a vaccine . Every sensible person knows that. Scientists and governments know there will never be a virus attack ,self defeating global extinction level event. But we still need vaccines for all the viruses .unless people think the Chinese race should be wiped out ?
The Chinese race cannot be wiped out. As a dedicated Sinophile, you must remember Mao's quote about nuclear extinction, "We have a very large territory and a big population. Atomic bombs could not kill all of us. I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left. He went on to say China would be in a better position than the West owing to China having a larger number of survivors. Krushchev was shocked by Mao and refused to give China the atomic bomb.

China just cannot be trusted and their recent actions in Hong Kong, India, the South China Sea and their threats to Australia and Taiwan give observers little confidence that the Government of China is one that dangerous viruses can be shared with.
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by jai yen yen » June 19, 2020, 4:44 am

Doodoo wrote:
June 18, 2020, 9:36 am
No Government can be trusted China Canada USA Russia .....
If you disagree please name me a Government you can trust?
Well there is bad and very bad, take your pick.

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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by jai yen yen » June 19, 2020, 4:45 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
June 19, 2020, 2:32 am
papafarang wrote:
June 18, 2020, 10:04 am
But of course they all are all turning them into weapons ,labs would be useless if they didn't. The who idea is to create vaccines and to do that you need the nastiest most deadly forms of the virus ,without it you can't create a vaccine . Every sensible person knows that. Scientists and governments know there will never be a virus attack ,self defeating global extinction level event. But we still need vaccines for all the viruses .unless people think the Chinese race should be wiped out ?
The Chinese race cannot be wiped out. As a dedicated Sinophile, you must remember Mao's quote about nuclear extinction, "We have a very large territory and a big population. Atomic bombs could not kill all of us. I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left. He went on to say China would be in a better position than the West owing to China having a larger number of survivors. Krushchev was shocked by Mao and refused to give China the atomic bomb.

China just cannot be trusted and their recent actions in Hong Kong, India, the South China Sea and their threats to Australia and Taiwan give observers little confidence that the Government of China is one that dangerous viruses can be shared with.
You are 100% correct.

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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by papafarang » June 19, 2020, 6:43 am

jai yen yen wrote:
June 19, 2020, 4:45 am
Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
June 19, 2020, 2:32 am
papafarang wrote:
June 18, 2020, 10:04 am
But of course they all are all turning them into weapons ,labs would be useless if they didn't. The who idea is to create vaccines and to do that you need the nastiest most deadly forms of the virus ,without it you can't create a vaccine . Every sensible person knows that. Scientists and governments know there will never be a virus attack ,self defeating global extinction level event. But we still need vaccines for all the viruses .unless people think the Chinese race should be wiped out ?
The Chinese race cannot be wiped out. As a dedicated Sinophile, you must remember Mao's quote about nuclear extinction, "We have a very large territory and a big population. Atomic bombs could not kill all of us. I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left. He went on to say China would be in a better position than the West owing to China having a larger number of survivors. Krushchev was shocked by Mao and refused to give China the atomic bomb.

China just cannot be trusted and their recent actions in Hong Kong, India, the South China Sea and their threats to Australia and Taiwan give observers little confidence that the Government of China is one that dangerous viruses can be shared with.
You are 100% correct.
What a load of bollox, threats to Australia ? When do you expect them to invade then ? A weaponised virus won't kill off half a population it would kill the whole human population. Perhaps your saying the next virus China finds it should not share information in case Western powers use it to create a weapon . we're talking people's health and safety , many countries are controlling the virus well. Or are they lying too ? America is going for the not too subtle herd immunity ,where other countries including China are trying to save their population. Just look at the numbers . Facts not fantasy
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Doodoo » June 19, 2020, 7:41 am

Laan
you have left out the most important part of Mao's thinking when it comes to the bomb
"Students of Chinese Communist affairs say there is more to this that simpleminded superstitions or cynical calculations. What Mao means, they say, is that nuclear weapons are certainly dangerous but that no country will ever use them for fear of retaliation." Retaliation is the key word. The reason to use The Bomb is for one side to wipe out the other and not leave say half.

Jai
Your comment regrading Bad and Very Bad is really laughable. How can one tell if a Government is either?

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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 19, 2020, 8:51 pm

papafarang wrote:
June 19, 2020, 6:43 am
What a load of bollox, threats to Australia ? When do you expect them to invade then ? A weaponised virus won't kill off half a population it would kill the whole human population. Perhaps your saying the next virus China finds it should not share information in case Western powers use it to create a weapon . we're talking people's health and safety , many countries are controlling the virus well. Or are they lying too ? America is going for the not too subtle herd immunity ,where other countries including China are trying to save their population. Just look at the numbers . Facts not fantasy
"Chinese officials are threatening economic consequences if Australia moves ahead with an investigation into Beijing’s early handling of the coronavirus outbreak, Australian Sky News reported on Monday. [/quote]

So, you do not consider this a threat?

As far as Mao goes, he is providing a lesson that even if the world suffers a crisis people will survive and more people will survive in China than people will survive in western countries.
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by mech_401 » June 20, 2020, 7:12 am

Doodoo wrote:
June 18, 2020, 9:36 am
No Government can be trusted China Canada USA Russia .....
don't forget sweden . truly horrifying stuff from se
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by papafarang » June 20, 2020, 8:23 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
June 19, 2020, 8:51 pm
papafarang wrote:
June 19, 2020, 6:43 am
What a load of bollox, threats to Australia ? When do you expect them to invade then ? A weaponised virus won't kill off half a population it would kill the whole human population. Perhaps your saying the next virus China finds it should not share information in case Western powers use it to create a weapon . we're talking people's health and safety , many countries are controlling the virus well. Or are they lying too ? America is going for the not too subtle herd immunity ,where other countries including China are trying to save their population. Just look at the numbers . Facts not fantasy
"Chinese officials are threatening economic consequences if Australia moves ahead with an investigation into Beijing’s early handling of the coronavirus outbreak, Australian Sky News reported on Monday.


So, you do not consider this a threat?

As far as Mao goes, he is providing a lesson that even if the world suffers a crisis people will survive and more people will survive in China than people will survive in western countries.
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Australia will suffer ,China and America are in a trade war. It appears the Aussie government has its tounge stuck up trump's ass and decided to kick off with its largest trading partner. Pretty dumb thing to do. It's not a threat ,it's just a fact .piss poor politics to start on a country that puts bread on your table.
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 20, 2020, 10:18 am

The Chinese Government should be proud of you for standing up for them; however, your facts have a hollow ring.
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by papafarang » June 20, 2020, 10:34 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
June 20, 2020, 10:18 am
The Chinese Government should be proud of you for standing up for them; however, your facts have a hollow ring.
What facts ? How about Italy, they had the infection in early December , did they hide it ? Or did they not know about it ? It's called a novel virus because no one had seen it before . No one had any idea. I'm afraid your blinded by your xenophobia that is echoed in conspiracy theories . :lol:
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

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papafarang wrote:
June 20, 2020, 8:23 am
Australia will suffer ,China and America are in a trade war. It appears the Aussie government has its tounge stuck up trump's ass and decided to kick off with its largest trading partner. Pretty dumb thing to do. It's not a threat ,it's just a fact .piss poor politics to start on a country that puts bread on your table.
It's a lot more nuanced than what you express above.
The Government believes the nation is facing political and economic coercion. Its assessment is that there can be no backdown; retreat under pressure, and that pressure will only intensify.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/ ... n/12376700

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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by mech_401 » June 20, 2020, 11:00 pm

china ramping up cyber attacks on OZ in every
sector and gov't services? as if virus wasn't enough trouble. they're really incorrigible china

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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by papafarang » June 21, 2020, 5:07 am

All governments spy and hack each other , it's not news. You only need a laptop to do it. Australia might be hacked but let's not forget it simply could be anyone for any reason. What do people think the 5 eyes spy network is a knitting circle ? We spy and hack them ,they do it back to us . What's all they crying about ?
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Re: Deadly Viruses from Winnipeg to Wuhan

Post by Doodoo » June 21, 2020, 8:16 am

Cryin, Papa??? No one has hacked me yet, that I know of!!!!

Bravo on your insight to the world os espionage. Your facts pressented are more true than just saying "your facts have a hollow ring"

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