Abortion

[tamada]

One can always opt to starve them the opportunity to keep posting links to their extreme beliefs and thus deny them being propagated. Please let them have the last word instead of allowing them to continually come back and suck the life out of this forum. If they start to pollute other threads with their OFF TOPIC cross-linking or willfully changing the names of threads when they post, use the report button.

[GT93]

Imagine if Australia HAD a Constitution like the US, they'd have rights and those rights would be protected....

https://rumble.com/vql34t-australia-cov ... ading.html

There is no longer any basic rights in Australia.

I hope your posts on the US are of a much higher quality. I fear not.

[Declan MacPherson]

One can always opt to starve them the opportunity to keep posting links to their extreme beliefs and thus deny them being propagated. Please let them have the last word instead of allowing them to continually come back and suck the life out of this forum. If they start to pollute other threads with their OFF TOPIC cross-linking or willfully changing the names of threads when they post, use the report button.

It is true. 2 or 3 Conservatives posting views contrary to the 8 or 9 Leftists and one "moderate conservative" is hardly fair to the 8 or 9 Leftists and the one "moderate conservative."

I fully understand your frustration in no longer being able to dominate the forum with your extreme beliefs and the admitted polluting of threads with off-topic posts that mock the topic. Despite those efforts, I never use the report button because I believe in free speech.

[grievous]

Imagine if Australia HAD a Constitution like the US, they'd have rights and those rights would be protected....

https://rumble.com/vql34t-australia-cov ... ading.html

There is no longer any basic rights in Australia.

Explain how you’ve come your opinions on the lack of basic rights in Australia
Have you ever been to Australia in recent times or ever?

[Teacher Dan]

Imagine if Australia HAD a Constitution like the US, they'd have rights and those rights would be protected....

https://rumble.com/vql34t-australia-cov ... ading.html

There is no longer any basic rights in Australia.

Explain how you’ve come your opinions on the lack of basic rights in Australia
Have you ever been to Australia in recent times or ever?

I've been to Oz many times though not recently, but did you watch the video? Do you know what has been going on there for months with the police and army arresting people for being outside smoking or for sneezing in an elevator--there was a nationwide manhunt for that one. Or how about the concentration camps?

[Teacher Dan]

Imagine if Australia HAD a Constitution like the US, they'd have rights and those rights would be protected....

https://rumble.com/vql34t-australia-cov ... ading.html

There is no longer any basic rights in Australia.

I hope your posts on the US are of a much higher quality. I fear not.

Are you familiar with Mark Twain? If not how about the Bible, Proverbs specifically? Both made it a point to point out that it was better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt--I fear you have done that latter.

[Teacher Dan]

One can always opt to starve them the opportunity to keep posting links to their extreme beliefs and thus deny them being propagated. Please let them have the last word instead of allowing them to continually come back and suck the life out of this forum. If they start to pollute other threads with their OFF TOPIC cross-linking or willfully changing the names of threads when they post, use the report button.

Spoken like a true coward...and one who obviously fears the truth while having no belief in the concept of free speech. FYI, it's you leftists who keep changing the topic as you move the goalposts when you are proven wrong in an attempt to prove you are right or try to make it a moral argument when you lack morality, like this very post.

[grievous]

Imagine if Australia HAD a Constitution like the US, they'd have rights and those rights would be protected....

https://rumble.com/vql34t-australia-cov ... ading.html

There is no longer any basic rights in Australia.

Explain how you’ve come your opinions on the lack of basic rights in Australia
Have you ever been to Australia in recent times or ever?

I've been to Oz many times though not recently, but did you watch the video? Do you know what has been going on there for months with the police and army arresting people for being outside smoking or for sneezing in an elevator--there was a nationwide manhunt for that one. Or how about the concentration camps?

I lived in Melbourne through the worst of the Covid lick downs,
I’ve been in quarantine around seven times and I’ve also stayed in Perth for a few months where life is completely normal
My opinions are through living it not on YouTube vids.
There were rules about wearing a mask, the amount of people you could gather with and certain venues could not open.
If you look at the the Covid infection & death rate in Aus v US per 100k you’ll see that it worked.

[noosard]

Imagine if Australia HAD a Constitution like the US, they'd have rights and those rights would be protected....

https://rumble.com/vql34t-australia-cov ... ading.html

There is no longer any basic rights in Australia.

Explain how you’ve come your opinions on the lack of basic rights in Australia
Have you ever been to Australia in recent times or ever?

I've been to Oz many times though not recently, but did you watch the video? Do you know what has been going on there for months with the police and army arresting people for being outside smoking or for sneezing in an elevator--there was a nationwide manhunt for that one. Or how about the concentration camps?

You are being funny now
Concentration camps is that like a school for thinking

[Teacher Dan]

If you look at the the Covid infection & death rate in Aus v US per 100k you’ll see that it worked.

Perhaps but Oz is far less densely populated than much of the US where most of our high numbers come from--in the US those with the highest cases and deaths were those that locked down the most. Florida where I am from was far lower despite having just as densely populated cities and more old people than most northern states--snowbirds. Then you have the fact that our government paid hospitals more for Wu Flu cases than other issues and at a time when the profitable procedures were not allowed due to lockdowns, hospitals needed to make money so it's obvious many flus, colds, and pneumonia cases were labeled the Wu Flu. Also Oz is completely different from the US and far more isolated and easier to control the access--you don't have millions of infected people rolling across the border because you are surrounded by water.

[Teacher Dan]

You are being funny now
Concentration camps is that like a school for thinking

No, I'm being serious like internment camps or concentration camps that were used in Nazi Germany and the US in WW 2. The Nazi versions were obviously worse as they actually killed people, so more like the US camps for German and Japanese Americans 'for their own safety' much like the current ones in Oz or the ones used in Canada earlier this year if not still now.

[noosard]

How many camps, where are they and what are their names
The only internment of citizens of Oz happened when they returned from either other States or from overseas
And the majority of those interned were in hotels for a 2 week period at their own expense, which lots seem not to pay
Oh just like they did here
but in Vic they did lock residents in apartment towers which may have been illegally done ie against the law of the land
So a bit strange for country with no rights, dont you think

[jackspratt]

--in the US those with the highest cases and deaths were those that locked down the most. Florida where I am from was far lower despite having just as densely populated cities and more old people than most northern states--

Not really.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020 ... -outbreak/

[Teacher Dan]

--in the US those with the highest cases and deaths were those that locked down the most. Florida where I am from was far lower despite having just as densely populated cities and more old people than most northern states--

Not really.

USA Covid Deaths.PNG

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020 ... -outbreak/

You do know that none of those states have the same population, right? So your raw numbers don't really mean much--did you notice he said per 100k? Yeah that is similar to per capita so then you are comparing apples to apples but still doesn't account for density. For example NY is far less densely populated than Florida but FL doesn't have a city comparable to NYC in density, Texas and Cali might be similar but Texas really has no comparison to LA and SF though.

This chart doesn't account for the density of certain cities but it does allow sorting and list cases and deaths per 1 milion and you can see that FL had more cases per 1 million but fewer deaths per 1 million than NY. However, it would seem that GA had more cases and deaths than PA while TX had more cases and deaths than CA. Interesting....NY and FL support my claim as I knew since I lived in FL, but the others do not and Texas is bigger than CA and GA is bigger than PA. Hmmm.....the GA and PA difference can be attributed to more testing in GA than PA per 1 million (also in the chart) because there would be more duplicate tests which is similar for CA and TX where CA has far more tests per million so a lot of dupes.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Teacher Dan]

How many camps, where are they and what are their names
The only internment of citizens of Oz happened when they returned from either other States or from overseas
And the majority of those interned were in hotels for a 2 week period at their own expense, which lots seem not to pay
Oh just like they did here
but in Vic they did lock residents in apartment towers which may have been illegally done ie against the law of the land
So a bit strange for country with no rights, dont you think

Apparently you didn't listen to the video at all or watch any news outside of the leftist bias bubble--do you ever watch Sky News Oz?

[noosard]

STATE CASES DEATHS Cases/1m Deaths/1m Population
1 Mississippi 519,115 10,326 174,425 3,470 2,976,149
2 Alabama 852,280 16,265 173,822 3,317 4,903,185
3 New Jersey 1,303,443 28,576 121,036 3,217 8,882,190
4 Louisiana 775,935 14,877 166,911 3,200 4,648,794
5 Arizona 1,316,189 23040 101,751 3,165 7,278,717
6 New York 2,941,697 58,672 470,809 3,016 19,453,561
7 Arkansas 538,426 8,848 521,329 2,932 3,017,804
8 Georgia 1,678,746 30,823 158,122 2,903 10,617,423
9 Florida 3,760,464 62,007 175,087 2,887 21,477,737

COUNTRY
1 USA 50,801,455 817,956 152,188 2450 333,807,743

90 Australia 230,7 2106 8,900 81 25,927,259

171 New Zealand 12,968 47 2596 9 5,002,100

Talk about apples and oranges

[Teacher Dan]

STATE CASES DEATHS Cases/1m Deaths/1m Population
1 Mississippi 519,115 10,326 174,425 3,470 2,976,149
2 Alabama 852,280 16,265 173,822 3,317 4,903,185
3 New Jersey 1,303,443 28,576 121,036 3,217 8,882,190
4 Louisiana 775,935 14,877 166,911 3,200 4,648,794
5 Arizona 1,316,189 23040 101,751 3,165 7,278,717
6 New York 2,941,697 58,672 470,809 3,016 19,453,561
7 Arkansas 538,426 8,848 521,329 2,932 3,017,804
8 Georgia 1,678,746 30,823 158,122 2,903 10,617,423
9 Florida 3,760,464 62,007 175,087 2,887 21,477,737

COUNTRY
1 USA 50,801,455 817,956 152,188 2450 333,807,743

90 Australia 230,7 2106 8,900 81 25,927,259

171 New Zealand 12,968 47 2596 9 5,002,100

Talk about apples and oranges

As I indicated with the other person there is some other data necessary so your numbers don't tell the story. Oz and NZ are isolated (and in the case of NZ, tiny) nations that can easily control access to their countries--the US cannot as we have millions literally walking in through our open southern border that our government is doing nothing to control and since most of those aren't tested and likely have some version of the Wu Flu, that affects our numbers. As does population density, which NZ doesn't even compare to the US at all--that's like comparing Alaska to Europe so not apples to apples at all. In fact most of Oz is sparsely populated so you could only really compare Oz to like the central western US--Wyoming, Nebraska, Colorado, the Dakotas, Iowa, Kansas etc. or simply to one state like CA or TX alone, not the entirety of the US. It's like lumping ALL of Europe together as one nation and comparing it to Oz--not even comparable.

[Teacher Dan]

By the way NONE of this has anything to do with abortion--the point of the Oz video about their lack of rights was a rebuttal to Paul's side topic about the US Constitution and pointing out WHY it's so important.

[noosard]

The Oz and Kiwi cases came from mainly the concentration camps of returnees
The masks and isolation stopped the spread

[Khun Paul]

The UN Human Rights Gneral Council order number 36 stipulaters quite clearly how it feels about Humans and Children especially in relation to pregnancy BUT it also says the following :

The document goes on to explain governments “must provide safe, legal and effective access to abortion” in the case that the pregnancy would potentially cause the woman “pain or suffering.” In addition, no laws or barriers may be placed that may push women towards “unsafe” abortions, including those caused by the “exercise of conscientious objection by individual medical providers.”

So not only do the Anti abortion brigade in the US and especially TEXAS is in breach of the UN Human Rights, but as we know Americans trample on any laws they do not like calling it UNCONSTUTIONAL

So ANY woman made to endure a full term pregnancy due to the LAWS currently allowed in the US could SUE under the Human Rights legislation which of course the US signed up to but then understanding it takes intelligence something Moronic Republicans have difficulty in doing .