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Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by Stantheman » June 11, 2009, 6:10 am

The following from Foxnews.com

"WASHINGTON -- A gunman opened fire inside the Holocaust Memorial Museum in the nation's capital Wednesday, shooting and killing a security guard before other officers returned fire and shot the assailant, officials said.

The museum released a statement late Wednesday afternoon confirming that 39-year-old Officer Stephen Tyrone Johns had died of his injuries. He had served on the museum's security staff for six years.

"There are no words to express our grief and shock over today's events," the statement said, adding that the museum would remain closed Thursday in his honor.

Police are looking at an elderly man identified as James Von Brunn as the shooter, FOX News has learned -- though D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier would not confirm the identity of the suspect.

The alleged shooter is the same James W. von Brunn who is a known white supremacist in his late 80s, MyFOXDC reported. He runs a Web site, Holy Western Empire, that carries several anti-Semitic statements.

Von Brunn was sentenced in 1983 to more than four years in prison for attempting to kidnap the Federal Reserve Board after a guard found him outside of a board meeting with a gun, knife and sawed-off shotgun.

Police said he wanted to take the board hostage because of high interest rates and the country's financial problems, MyFOXDC reported.

On his site, Von Brunn insists he was trying to place the board under "legal, non-violent citizens-arrest."

Law enforcement officials said Von Brunn's vehicle, found near the museum, was tested for explosives, and authorities were also raiding his home to check his computer and investigate the incident as a possible hate crime or domestic terrorism.

David Schlosser, a spokesman for the U.S. Park Police, said the gunman entered the museum shortly before 1 p.m. ET and shot the security guard, before two other security guards returned fire and wounded the shooter. Both the shooter and security guard, later identified as Johns, were then sent to a local hospital, he said.

Lanier said the gunman was carrying a rifle and used it immediately. "He raised the rifle and started shooting," she said. "The second he stepped into the building, he began firing."

Lanier told reporters the suspect appears to have been a "lone gunman," and that authorities received no prior threats.

"Our hearts and thoughts go out to the security guard and his family," D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty said at the press conference. Fenty said the gunman is in "critical condition" at the hospital.

President Obama was briefed and was "concerned" and "saddened" by the shooting, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said.

There were conflicting reports about how many people were wounded. Another law enforcement official earlier said three people had been shot.

Police and other law enforcement, including the FBI's Terrorism Task Force, had surrounded the museum site Wednesday afternoon.

Witnesses said they heard a series of gunshots, and did not immediately know what was happening.

"We heard a huge boom and we all kind of looked around," said a visitor from Chicago. After they heard more shots, she said, "We all hit the ground and definitely knew it was gunshots."

Kimberly Frank, also from Chicago, said she and her son Tyler were just finishing up their tour of the museum when she heard five shots, though she didn't initially know they were gunshots.

"I was terrified," her son said.

The Holocaust Museum is a popular tourist destination, located south of the National Mall and near the Washington Monument."



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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 11, 2009, 7:26 am

Shouldn't your avatar be of Stan 'the Man' Musial, the great outfielder/first baseman of the St. Louis Cardinal baseball team?

There is, to my knowledge, only one Stan the Man, and Musial is it. 55555


It is a shame about the shooting at the museum, and the lesson is....?

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by WBU ALUM » June 11, 2009, 8:12 am

Tilokarat wrote:Shouldn't your avatar be of Stan 'the Man' Musial, the great outfielder/first baseman of the St. Louis Cardinal baseball team?

There is, to my knowledge, only one Stan the Man, and Musial is it. 55555
Yes, there is only ONE "Stan the Man." You are correct again, Tilokarat! =D>

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 11, 2009, 8:49 am

This one was a no-brainer.

I can still remember Dizzy Dean and his pardnah Buddy Blattner (sp) broadcasting the game of the week. The exploits of Stan the Man Musial, Teddy Ballgame Williams, Mantle, Duke Snider, Eddie Mathews, Rocky Colavito, Al Kaline et al still are vivid in my memory.

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by polehawk » June 11, 2009, 10:19 am

"Stan the Man" Levitan! He was one of the DJs in "Good Morning Vietnam". :lol:

Hey Tilo, for someone who doesn't believe in using smilies you sure use a lot of 55555s. :mrgreen:

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by polehawk » June 11, 2009, 10:21 am

The alleged shooter is the same James W. von Brunn who is a known white supremacist in his late 80s, MyFOXDC reported. He runs a Web site, Holy Western Empire, that carries several anti-Semitic statements.
What did you do in retirement, Daddy?

I became a terrorist, son. :fryingpan:

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 11, 2009, 10:53 am

Yes, I do use the 55555's a lot to show that I am somewhat functionally computer literate and have learnt what lol means. Furthermore, it can alert people to the fact that they should not take my remarks too seriously or that there is a feeble attempt at humour in the post.

Finally, it brings me some measure of satisfaction to know that life can be lived without ever using those silly smilies.

Now go and read the post about Gordie Howe I put on the Stanley Cup thread earlier in the morning Toronto time. :D

Whoops, ignore that thing, I mean 55555.

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by jingjai » June 11, 2009, 1:55 pm

Tilokarat wrote: It is a shame about the shooting at the museum, and the lesson is....?
Perhaps this article may answer your question regarding the lesson, it's a little more detailed than what Fox News put out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090611/ap_ ... m_shooting
Gunman Shoots, Kills Guard at Holocaust Museum
By NAFEESA SYEED and DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Writers Nafeesa Syeed And David Espo, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 50 mins ago

WASHINGTON – An 88-year-old gunman with a violent and virulently anti-Semitic past opened fire with a rifle inside the crowded U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday, fatally wounding a security guard before being shot himself by other officers, authorities said.

The assailant was hospitalized in critical condition, leaving behind a sprawling investigation by federal and local law enforcement and expressions of shock from the Israeli government and a prominent Muslim organization.

Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier said the gunman was "engaged by security guards immediately after entering the door" with a rifle. "The second he stepped into the building he began firing."

Law enforcement officials said James W. von Brunn, a white supremacist, was under investigation in the shooting and that his car was found near the museum and tested for explosives. The weapon was a .22-caliber rifle, they added. They spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss the investigation just beginning.

When von Brunn was captured he possessed a list he had made of lawmakers on Capitol Hill, according to another law enforcement officer who requested anonymity. The purpose of the list was not immediately clear, the official said.

The dead guard, Stephen Tyrone Johns, 39, was a six-year veteran of the facility who lived in Temple Hills, Md. Museum Director Sara Bloomfield said he "died heroically in the line of duty."

At the White House, just blocks away from the museum, President Barack Obama said: "This outrageous act reminds us that we must remain vigilant against anti-Semitism and prejudice in all its forms. No American institution is more important to this effort than the Holocaust Museum, and no act of violence will diminish our determination to honor those who were lost by building a more peaceful and tolerant world."

Von Brunn has a racist, anti-Semitic Web site and wrote a book titled "Kill the Best Gentiles," alleging a Jewish conspiracy "to destroy the white gene pool." Writings attributed to von Brunn on the Internet say the Holocaust was a hoax. "At Auschwitz the 'Holocaust' myth became Reality, and Germany, cultural gem of the West, became a pariah among world nations," one says.

In 1983, he was convicted of attempting to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board and served more than six years in prison. He was arrested two years earlier outside the room where the board was meeting, carrying a revolver, knife and sawed-off shotgun. At the time, police said von Brunn wanted to take the members hostage because of high interest rates and the nation's economic difficulties.

The museum, which opened in 1993 and has drawn nearly 30 million visitors, houses exhibits and records relating to the Holocaust of more than a half century ago in which more than 6 million Jews died at the hands of Nazis. Its Web site says the museum "teaches millions of people each year about the dangers of unchecked hatred and the need to prevent genocide."

The museum was crowded with schoolchildren and other tourists at the time of the attack, but they all escaped injury in the outburst of violence.

Ashley Camp, 14, of Forsyth, Ill., on a field trip with more than 40 other students, said she heard two or three gunshots. Soon after, she recalled, a security guard ordered the group to run to the exit.

"We had to sprint as fast as we could out the door," she said. "I thought it was the movie (part of a museum exhibit), but then everyone started screaming and running."

The attack was the third in a recent wave of unsettling shootings that appeared to have political or ethnic underpinnings.

A 23-year-old Army private, William Andrew Long, was shot and killed outside a recruiting office this month in Arkansas and a fellow soldier was wounded. The suspect, a Muslim convert, has said he considers the killing justified because of the U.S. military presence in the Middle East.

Late last month, abortion provider Dr. George Tiller was shot to death in his church.

Johns, the security guard killed Wednesday, was black.

Only last week, Obama visited the site of a German concentration camp at Buchenwald in Germany where he noted, "There are those who insist the Holocaust never happened." He added, "This place is the ultimate rebuke to such thoughts, a reminder of our duty to confront those who would tell lies about our history."

In a statement from Israel's government, Information and Diaspora Minister Yuli Edelstein said the shooting was "further proof that anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial have not passed from the world."

And the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a prominent American Muslim organization, said in a statement, "We condemn this apparent bias-motivated attack and stand with the Jewish community and with Americans of all faiths in repudiating the kind of hatred and intolerance that can lead to such disturbing incidents."

Within minutes after the attack, federal agents were dispatched to von Brunn's condominium in Annapolis, Md., to check his computer. A neighbor, Harold Olynnger, said in an interview that he and his wife had not been allowed back in their condo since early afternoon because agents feared the suspect's home might contain explosives.

Joseph Persichini, assistant director in charge of the Washington FBI field office, said the shootings were being investigated as a possible hate crime or a case of domestic terrorism.

According to a relative, von Brunn attended Washington University in St. Louis and is an artist.

Navy records show von Brunn enlisted in 1942 as an apprentice seaman before accepting an appointment as a naval midshipmen in the volunteer reserves in March 1943. On his application for enlistment, the 21-year-old listed his reason for signing up as "patriotic." His records show he had language qualifications in both English and French after spending three years in college. He was discharged from the Navy in 1956.

A cousin, Virginia Gerker of St. Louis, said in an interview she hadn't seen him in 50 years. She said her family had "disowned" him and believed him to be mentally ill.

About a dozen years ago, he applied to have his art shown at a gallery in Easton, Md., according to two of the owners. Laura Era and Jennifer Wharton said they rejected his work and he stomped out.

Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center said von Brunn's Web site has long been listed as a hate site.

"We've been tracking this guy for decades," said Heidi Beirich, director of research for the law center's Intelligence Project, which tracks hate crimes. "He thinks the Jews control the Federal Reserve, the banking system, that basically all Jews are evil."

The Rev. David Ostendorf, executive director of the Center for a New Community in Chicago, a national civil rights group, said von Brunn has described in his own writings a long relationship with Willis Carto, founder of the Liberty Lobby, the Spotlight Newspaper and a well-known white supremacist and anti-Semite.

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by jingjai » June 11, 2009, 2:12 pm

Forgot to add this in my last post:
The fact that people starting making jokes after the original post in this thread, ought to be a lesson in itself. :-k

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by polehawk » June 11, 2009, 6:11 pm

Well, everyone must already realize that the holocaust was an abomination and a black mark against civilization. The less glamorization as possible of the act of this racist ***** in killing the security guard for unconscionable reasons, the better. Humor is a salve against an open wound, sometimes? :-k

Tilo. thanks for that. We all knew you would eventually come over to the dark side. :D

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 11, 2009, 6:50 pm

I was looking for the original poster to offer some analysis, comment and so on rather than just cut and paste.

The horror of the holocaust is embedded in my mind already.

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