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Post by AussieBoy » October 25, 2007, 9:15 pm

Day11 Wednesday. Continue to make frames, fix 30x0.9 strapping for bracing tie down and locking the main structural conponants together. fixed with flat head 40mm nails,

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Post by AussieBoy » October 25, 2007, 9:16 pm

Day11 Wednesday. Tie washer used on the top and bottom plates, 65mm x 3 mm , threaded rod 12mm at max 1.800mt centers and either side of all openings

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Under tie 1/12 x 4 fixed to under side joist full length of home, bottom plate tied down, with 12mm bolts under windows, all other areas full length rods from top to bottom

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Post by AussieBoy » October 25, 2007, 9:49 pm

Tie brackets 30x30x1.5 fixed to every joist bearer crossover, with 3 x 40mm flat head nails and 2 x 12 mmx 2mm wafer head screws to steel joist


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Post by AussieBoy » October 25, 2007, 9:52 pm

Thursday/ friday 26th holiday
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Post by AussieBoy » October 26, 2007, 1:13 pm

Costings for wall framing, material 1/12 x 3 @B45mt x 550mt = B25,000 delivered
Nails bolts fixings, strapping screws----------------------------------B05,000
Plywood bracing 12 sheets 2440x1220 x 3mm b200x 12----------B02,500
Labour 3 x crew days b1300------------------------------------------B04,000
------------------------------------------------------------------Total B36,500

Costings 60mt2 per square metre floor area ---------------------Bt 600

Costing per linear mt wall-------------------------------------------Bt 900 @2.7 wall height

Costing per Mt2 wall @ 2.7 height----------------------------------Bt 360

Any one wanting to build using timber can do a estimate and the total linear metre of walls that they will have in their home by the linear mt costing, at 2.7 mt wall height.

Ajust the cost for your material and labour per day rat and you will have a good estimate of total cost.

Labour used is 2 Toy carpenters and 2 laboures, their wifes, Toy carpenters are not real carpenters yet, still learning to be the real ones, but this crew will have plenty experience with timber when finished, and the western way of good construction methods.
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Post by AussieBoy » October 26, 2007, 1:25 pm

Cost to date floor to platform stage -------------------Baht60,000

Walls------------------------------------------------------Baht36,000

--------------------------------------------------------------------Total Bt 96,000

Power supply to pole------------------------------------Baht07,000

Clean land remove grass spoil-------------------------Baht07,000

Fences----------------------------------------------------Baht30,000

Gravel soi------------------------------------------------Baht20,000

Phone calls cost-----------------------------------------------1,000

-----------------------------------------------------------------Total Bt 65,000
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Post by Franco » October 26, 2007, 4:36 pm

Thanks for the info on the Timber, Costings very useful too

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Post by AussieBoy » October 28, 2007, 8:23 pm

Day 12 Saturday, More on the job training, installing tie bolts, bracing, and final bolt down of frame.

Photo: of assembling tie bolts, with crew, showing how to install them


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Post by AussieBoy » October 28, 2007, 8:29 pm

Photo: close up of plywood bracing panel, 2440 x 1220 x 3mm nailed off with 40x 2mm flathead nails, Clouts, as there is no clouts in Udon I used roof nails with the big head.

Top and bottom of sheet is nailed off at 50mm centres, vertical nailed at 150mm, tie rods at either end of bracing sheets, from under batten to top plate


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Post by AussieBoy » October 28, 2007, 9:10 pm

Bracing wall with tie rods, underbatten 1 1/2 x 4 runs under the floor joist, tie rod are bolted through the underbatten, with 65 mm washers, large washers spread the load. Between the joist and under batten a nogging is used so the tie rod won't bend the underbatten up, at later stage as the timber shrinks you and tighten up the tie rods.

Photo: you can see the tie rods and on the left installed is a nogging, tierods are drilled through the nogging, on the bottom right of photo, a nogging is about to be installed. At the top of plywood 3 nogging are used to extend the ply sheet, as only 8ft sheets are available here, so a 1 ft extension is nailed on top of the main sheet.

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Post by AussieBoy » October 28, 2007, 9:18 pm

Photo joist ties 30 x 30 x 2 mm steel angle nailed with 40mm concrets nails fitted with 8mm washers, screwed to joist

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Post by AussieBoy » October 28, 2007, 9:37 pm

Photo: joist undertie batten, used to tie joist together, loadsharing batten 1 1/2 x 4 screwed fixed to joist, helps stop deflection of single joists when live load is applied, spreads the load across several joist, gives a more solid feel, less movement.

Joist spacing is 400mm and a 100kg load applied to centre of joist at midway of 2800mm span, the maximum deflection area, is 4mm, this is reduced to 2mm with the joist undertie, acceptable design if you want to use ceramic tiles, if applied tiles with a 2 pak glue the deflection will be less, the tiles give a stronger laminated floor, I will be sanding the ply floor

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Post by AussieBoy » October 30, 2007, 7:49 pm

Day 13 Sunday: not much to show just cutting out the roof frame, so here is a photo of the ant capping used, a baking dish for B50

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Post by AussieBoy » October 30, 2007, 8:08 pm

Day 14 Monday: Make roof truss, first truss set up on platform deck in jig ready to nail ply wood gussets, total 12 trusses to make

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Photo , Tail end of truss with eves/ Soffit over hang of 900mm
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Photo some of the complete trusses waiting to install
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Post by AussieBoy » October 30, 2007, 8:46 pm

Day 15 Tuesday: complete truss making, cut steel brackets for truss ties steel 30x30 angles. Mark out top plate frame for brackets, Straighten frames and brace temporary.
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Post by cookie » October 31, 2007, 1:10 pm

Whow, this is so interesting.
I am sitting here with my dictionary trying to understand everything because I really want to understand everything. Not easy, but very interesting

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Post by AussieBoy » October 31, 2007, 7:02 pm

Day 16 Wednesday No work rain day
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Post by cookie » October 31, 2007, 10:55 pm

Is the rain no problem for the wood??

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Post by AussieBoy » November 1, 2007, 8:06 pm

Day 17 Thursday: Bit of rain is no problem, as long as the timber is wet evenly.

Today erect Roof trusses and brace, install roof battens at 600mm centers, 1 1/2 x 3 sized on face to make same thickness, fixed with 2 x 100mm nails, at 20 deg angle to give maxium grip into top cord of trusses, gives a stronger pull out force if nails are driven in at an angle, opposed to each other.

Photo: of roof trusses in place with 3 x 1/2 roof battens being fixed to trusses

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Post by AussieBoy » November 4, 2007, 7:12 pm

Photo: Close up of trusses in place with workers installing the battens for the roof sheeting

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Photo: Cutting off the tail ends of the trusses, to make same length and plumb cut, ready to take facia board that will support the gutter, facia board is sized 6 x 1 1/2, one face dressed smooth, the extra thickness of the facia board helps transfer the load of each truss tailend to the next truss either side. fixed with nails 100mm and steel angle bracket 30x30mm

Install first roof batten from this level
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Installing first roof batten with nails, at later stage steel brackets will tie all the truss ends to the facia, at this stage you can see the steel brackets holding the truss to the wall frame with 2 x 14 g screws x65mm
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